This reeks of the “noble savage” stereotype. I would be willing to bet 80% of biodiversity being in native lands has more to do with how brutally they’ve been repressed than how “in tune” with the environment they are.

They’re people too, and I see little reason to believe they wouldn’t fall to the same human flaws as the rest of us if given the chance.

Sounds like shrinking the population would solve the problem, as long as it's a very specific 10% that was shrunk.

Ecofascism isn't a real ideology I don't know why people keep insisting it is. Almost seems like a deliberate psy-op to create divisions among environmentalists. But more likely people are just stupid and afraid and angry.

I distinctly remember being taught in 2002 in upstate New York that humans were outside of the ecosystem and not bound by the same rules and things as animals were. The teacher said that’s what made us so special.

What a fucking crime.

I watched a documentary in New Zealand about fish stocks. It was talking about how the fish around New Zealand are overfished and numbers are low. Had experts talking about issues with boats and how they need no fishing areas. They had Maori on there talking about how much abundance of fish there was before the white people came. They talked about how in tune the Maori were with the land and had ways to manage stock.

The documentary finished saying the issue is still ongoing and not enough has been done. Didn't really go into why.

Well I looked it up after the majority of fishing companies are owned by the Maori and the reason the scientifically justified areas were not set as a sanctuary was because the Maori didnt agree and wanted to do things there own way that would allow them to fish at levels higher than what the science was saying is possible. On this matter New Zealand cared more about what Maori incorrectly believed over what the scientific evidence was saying to them.

People need to get off their high horse. People suck all over the world. Yea shock the people that live in mountains which remain untouched because it is shit farmland is going to have the most nature. But go to other countries and you see it's the same, well worse than white countries. Places like UK has had protected land for hundreds of years. They set up protected land in the new places they went. Areas they left like Malaysia and India are full of rubbish and monoculture. They didn't get better. Go to Indonesia and look at their beautiful islands. The tour guide said to us "look no littering sign. Only in Indonesian. Westerners don't litter but the locals do".

I'm tired of people pretending they are smart and problem solving by by mass murdering most humans on the planet and stopping procreation.

You don't solve a jigsaw puzzle by putting 10 pieces together and burning the rest so you dont have to deal with them.

Your meme has too many words and the four block structure makes no sense.

There is a point burried in there that is drowned out by all the fallacious added baggage. Its disingenuous bullshit.

Indigenous Chinese or Indians or Nigerians are not protectors of the earth, just like every other industrial nation. The picture meant to frame "Indigenous" as what Canada calls the indigenous First Nations peoples. It's relying on the racist trope of the noble savage, forgetting that First Nations aren't against industrializing their lands, as long as they are included as partner beneficiaries and they don't maximize returns via egregious environmental destruction on their lands. They also generally want industrialization and trade including water treatment, sanitation and all the other goodies like internet, tv, playstations and the like.

It also targets "capitalist" without looking at the eco-horrors of every other 'ism on earth. Go have a cool tall glass of Ganges, Nile or Yellow river water and tell me how refreshing it is.

This is a shitpost carefully designed to be a lopsided attack.

I'm not sure this person is aware what indigenous means. Unless, of course this meme is a 100% America-centric meme and largely ignores the entire rest of the world.

Also pretty funny that "eco fascism" is placed underneath what I assume are native Americans.

Although I dont disagree, the argument doesn't make sense. Do you think our worlds population would be the same if we all lived like indigenous people?

Carbon emissions are not the only problem. I really doubt the world's reaches 10% also produce half of the sewage and plastic or that most of the land is turned into farms to feed them. It's nice that indigenous people living in forest don't destroy it but you can't have 8 billion people living in forests. Cities and highways are not part of the ecosystem.

Thanks for the good vibes, they'd also love this over on LeftyMemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Sure, if you all want to live like it's 1750 again humans are not a problem. We both know you don't want to do that so stop acting like the modern lifestyle is sustainable if the rich just polluted less. It's not that simple, they pollute that much because they own the facilities that support our lifestyle

Who is reading this without being part of the 10%?

Nihilists should lead by example and remove themselves first.

amazon, many rainforests(both amazon and mega-biodiversity of indonesia, south eas asia) is being decimated and untold species both undiscovered and rares are fast disappearing.

No, sorry, I stand by the "humans are a virus" side. A small minority aren't, but most are, myself included.

Indigenous people protecting the environment from what?

Saying stuff like humans are the virus isn't fascism it's just simply stupid/edgy. Sure you could say someone like that is a useful idiot to fascists but that's like saying everyone who drinks gasoline from the cars parked on the street is furthering the agenda of some solar panel manufacturing company. Both are inconsequential enough for me not to give a shit.

We aren’t saying that brown people are above tech and modernities and that’s why they don’t have them… are we? Surely not.

It's not wrong to say that population is the driving problem. Do you think indigenous people ever coexisted with their ecosystem at the population density we're at now?