767
Apple design chief Alan Dye departs for Meta (discuss.tchncs.de)
submitted 3 days ago by Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world
32 comments fedilink hide all child comments
top 32 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 124 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Bastard ruining technology through one company moves to ruin technology through another company.

RIP Bozo, you won't be missed

EDIT : People seem to be interpreting this as me hating on that guy. I'm hating on apple and facebook. Fuck them both, all this shithead has done is gone from one company fucking up technology (apple) and gone to another company fucking up technology (facebook)

[-] opossumo@lemmings.world 30 points 3 days ago

You can’t ruin what was never good.

[-] carotte 53 points 3 days ago

apple was known for making excellent UX, that's the main reason their products are successful. It Just Works™. (well, that and status symbol)

the problems started before version 26, but i don't think there's been an apple software release that botched in a while

[-] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

I think he's talking about how Meta was never good.

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago

I also don't think Apple was ever good.

[-] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Interesting to look at the votes on this thread. Especially on Lemmy.

I dont have a meaningful takeaway.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago

I have a book on UX that was probably printed around 2010. Going through it apples new liquid glass design style basically violates every single one of the books principles.

The first and foremost being that it's almost impossible for developers to emulate. It's almost like they want there to be this dark contrast between the apple made operating system and the developer made apps, which is an insane thing for them to go for but it does appear to be what they're actually trying to achieve.

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 days ago

apple was known for making excellent UX,

It honestly baffles me how people can say this with a straight face. Iphone's UX is abysmal.

You open something, and to go back from it you... Look around the screen for clues! Sometimes, you have to swipe down. Sometimes swipe left. Sometimes tap the background. Sometimes tap the top-left corner. Other times, the top-left corner. Unless it's not just the top-left, it's the "toppest-leftest", a small little indicator on the very edge of the screen.

Whereas on Android you go back by tapping the "back" button, or swiping left/right from the edge of the screen (making the gesture ambidextrous). The only exception to this rule is when you're using an app that was lazily ported from iOS...

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Taking your files and randomising where they go is not good UX.

Having all your windows explode because you moved your mouse to the corner is not good UX.

Having a mouse be completely unusable when charging is not good UX

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah the Human Interface Guidelines were the precursor to design systems, and for a little while, design/ux really was front and center and that influence and patterns that worked spread through software projects and products. Nowadays sadly UX always takes a back seat to capitalizing on attention, and capitalism in general.

Edit: It's important to remember that Apple was writing 350 page interface books in 1992. They pioneered "look and feel."

https://dl.acm.org/doi/book/10.5555/573097

Nowadays those questions are like

"Did the user make a purchase? How many ads did they see in 15 seconds? Are they still scrolling? How much data have you collected?"

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago

He's going to do a lot less damage at Meta. Other than the quest I don't think they actually make any hardware. What's he going to do?

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

thanks for making me realise that my post is interpreted as hating whoever the fuck this guy is, and not the shitty companies he's working for. for your convenience :

Bastard ruining technology through one company moves to ruin technology through another company.

RIP Bozo, you won’t be missed

EDIT : People seem to be interpreting this as me hating on that guy. I’m hating on apple and facebook. Fuck them both, all this shithead has done is gone from one company fucking up technology (apple) and gone to another company fucking up technology (facebook)

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

You calling him a bastard who personally ruins tech. You are hating on that guy or are missing some commas.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 28 points 3 days ago

Never heard of the guy and both apple and meta can suck my infected boils.

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 56 points 3 days ago

I was curious about the quote, but it got jpegged away :(

[-] SantasMagicalComfort@piefed.world 76 points 3 days ago

It's a Steve Jobs quote:

“Design is not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works.”

[-] SkyeStarfall 24 points 3 days ago

Damn. Truly a visionary I must say. Nobody ever thought to think of a design in terms of how something works before

No but seriously though, I don't really get this quote. Isn't that.. obvious?

[-] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

For Apple? No, it isn't. Which is why we got the incredible air phone or whatever that shit was.

They make quality stuff, but it's always been about vanity. Drives me nuts how much some people are religious about their shit.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago

As far as I understand it nobody's even buying the iPhone air. It's obviously a cheap version of the product which should be great if it also had a cheaper price, but since it costs almost as much as the normal iPhone no one can see the point.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

ohhh, so Microsoft is bad at design, I was trying to pinpoint exactly what was so fucked up with their shit

because seriously how the fuck does nothing Microsoft just work anymore

even notepad was enshittified, I just learned there's fucking copilot in notepad. I'm trying to hold out on Win10 at work, but they're also making OneDrive trigger BSODs a few times a day now...

[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

TBF Microsoft also don't know how to make things look and feel right. For ages, their primary UI design tools were a toolbar crammed with buttons end to end, a vertical list crammed with items, and a table crammed with items row by row — culminating in Windows 8's tiles. MS didn't understand that people need spatial organization, spacing and margins, and only recently started separating toolbar buttons with white space in their apps.

Meanwhile principles of grouping are any designer's most basic tools. One could make good design with sticks and mud if they follow the principles.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

if(computerShouldWork){ dont(); }

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Steve Jobs on them: https://youtu.be/3KdlJlHAAbQ

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

jpegged away

It wasn't jpegged away, that's the awesome joke.

[-] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 days ago

"Design is not just how it looks. Design is how it." -Alan

Words to live by.

[-] D1re_W0lf@piefed.world 21 points 3 days ago

Should have gone one OS earlier. 😒

[-] kora@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago

Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced that Dye will lead a new creative studio within the company's AR/VR division Reality Labs.

Sweet, now he can actually achieve his fantasy of becoming a glazier in VR.

[-] becausechemistry@lemy.lol 16 points 3 days ago

Lol good luck getting boomers to look at grey text on light grey backgrounds

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"Design philosophy" may be the one type of philosophy even more useless than actual philosophy.

[-] Xylight@lemdro.id 6 points 3 days ago

this is a partial rewrite of an older meme captioned "if apple really had courage"

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

Gruber reallly just loved him

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/12/04/john-gruber-on-alan-dye/

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 3 days ago

...and then he Dyed.

this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2025
767 points (100.0% liked)

Microblog Memes

9816 readers
1204 users here now

A place to share screenshots of Microblog posts, whether from Mastodon, tumblr, ~~Twitter~~ X, KBin, Threads or elsewhere.

Created as an evolution of White People Twitter and other tweet-capture subreddits.

Rules:

  1. Please put at least one word relevant to the post in the post title.
  2. Be nice.
  3. No advertising, brand promotion or guerilla marketing.
  4. Posters are encouraged to link to the toot or tweet etc in the description of posts.

Related communities:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
ReadyUser31@lemmy.world
aeronmelon@lemmy.world
needanke@feddit.org