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[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 49 points 6 days ago

It's a shakedown warning to pharma companies: "we will upset your revenue stream unless you bribe us not to"

That's the only reason I can see a U-turn happening here

Too late, he did the damage he wanted to do and the cult isn't going to stop blaming Tylenol.

[-] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago
[-] Mist101@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Hey! They could take some... oh, no...

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago

It's cool. I'll just give them paracetamol. They won't know

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Hell, give em hydroxychloroquine--they know that stuff works lol

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

What, they care for proof now?

Edit: nope, clickbait. Block that shit.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

It's pretty much worthless to read media and news that isn't by one of the very few remaining journalistic organizations, and even Reuters and AP have had issues.

I weep for the passing of truth and reality. I kinda thought we would go in the opposite direction a quarter century into the 21st millennium, but here we are. Reckon I'll go down to the local alchemist and pick up some leeches and mercury to keep the miasma at bay and balance the ol' humors.

[-] VerilyFemme 13 points 6 days ago
[-] LadyAutumn 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It doesnt matter really, evidence is really irrelevant to the entire thing at this point. The people tuning in do not understand what autism is to begin with, let alone what evidence would even mean in this context.

I won't be surprised when studies show in a few years a large drop in Tylenol use during pregnancy (probably overall use too), and the diagnosis rate of autism continues the overall increasing trend (as we become better at diagnosing it).

[-] Bonus@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

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[-] d00phy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Holy shit! It’s the consequences of his ineptitude all caught up with him! Who woulda thunk!?

[-] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 122 points 1 week ago

Imagine being, like, 75 and suddenly having to learn philosophy of science

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago

I don't see how Johnson and Johnson haven't sued the absolute shit out of him at this point.

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago

That’s probably why he’s saying it, lol. I doubt J&J wants a stupid, expensive lawsuit with the government over this, it wouldn’t surprise me if they’ve been in private talks to get them to walk it back.

[-] bear 4 points 6 days ago

A drawn out lawsuit world probably result in generations of magas not using Tylenol out of spite.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

No way they don't sue, it's just a matter of time. I'm sure their sales have plummeted from all the idiots believing anything they read.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 107 points 1 week ago

"The causative association . . . between Tylenol given in pregnancy and the perinatal periods is not sufficient to say it definitely causes autism. But it is very suggestive," Kennedy told reporters, citing animal, blood and observational studies.

Was what he actually said, the headline is click bait.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 51 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

that not clickbait, it's called paraphrasing

can't put the entire paraghaph as a headline

[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 35 points 6 days ago

Its deliberately obfuscating a critical part of the quote in order to get more attention.

Its clickbait.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

what part?

how would you have worded the headline to avoid what you call clickbait?

[-] drosophila 4 points 6 days ago

Evidence linking Tylenol and autism not definitive "but very suggestive", says health secretary Kennedy.

[-] theolodis@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

"Suggestive evidence is information that hints at a particular conclusion but is not conclusive on its own."

So in short, is there no conclusive evidence linking it to autism?

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Why is this "critical part"? Kennedy being a lunatic with ZERO CREDIBILITY...

why would you base ANY medical decision on a guy who actually said "you shouldn't base any medical decision on my advice"?

[-] drosophila 3 points 6 days ago

I wouldn't lmao

I just think the headline shouldn't sanewash him

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

do you think that's sane washing? and here I am arguing thinking you are defending this lunatic

You're both right.

[-] stray@pawb.social 9 points 6 days ago

I think a more accurate paraphrasing would be that he said studies suggest Tylenol during pregnancy causes autism.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

What "studies"? you are now literally making things up and pretending this is less clickbait?

A month later, Trump and Kennedy, neither of whom are doctors, held a press conference in September to specifically warn pregnant women against taking the medication without citing any scientific evidence.

Even the FDA, under these absolute morons, cannot come up with anything to throw at Acetaminophen

"The FDA is responding to prior clinical and laboratory studies that suggest a potential association between acetaminophen use during pregnancy and adverse neurodevelopmental outcomes," the agency said in its announcement. "FDA also recognizes that there are contrary studies showing no association and that there can be risks for untreated fever in pregnancy, both for the mother and fetus. "

[-] stray@pawb.social 7 points 6 days ago

"The causative association with, between Tylenol given in pregnancy and the perinatal periods is not sufficient to say it definitely causes autism. But it is very suggestive," Kennedy told reporters, citing animal, blood and observational studies.

From the OP article, emphasis mine.

Even the quote you shared says "prior clinical and laboratory studies".

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

yes but they have provided no such "studies" to "suggest" this link... it is literally the opinion, without ANY SUBSTANCE, of a guy who chooses to swim in an open sewer

[-] stray@pawb.social 4 points 6 days ago

But they're reporting on what he said, and what he said is that studies suggest a causal link. It doesn't matter whether or not he's lying about it. The headline as written suggests he's changing his tune on the alleged Tylenol/autism connection, but he isn't.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

He is changing his tune now that lawsuits started flying

They outright came out saying Tylenol during pregnancy causes autism a few weeks back... now they acknowledge they are full of shit but added a "suggest" to save some face.

Again, the gist of this news is that he is backtracking. To expect they will quote everything he said in the headline is nonsense (specially when it literally is nonsense), otherwise you'd expect the headline to contain the entire article

[-] stray@pawb.social 2 points 6 days ago

I don't agree with that read of the situation given these quotes from the article:

Kennedy has couched his statements by saying there was no clear scientific evidence showing causation: During a Cabinet meeting on Oct. 9 with Trump, Kennedy said: "Anybody who takes the stuff during pregnancy unless they have to, is irresponsible. It is not proof. We’re doing the studies to make the proof."

Asked if Kennedy's latest comments signaled a softening of his stance on the issue, Emily G. Hilliard, Health and Human Services press secretary, said: "It’s the same position the Secretary has had since the beginning."

Further detail on that quote from the 9th:

Kennedy acknowledged that studies haven’t proven that acetaminophen causes autism, but that correlations with its use are so strong that it would be irresponsible to ignore.

"It’s not dispositive that it causes autism," Kennedy said. "It’s so suggestive that anybody who takes the stuff during pregnancy is irresponsible."

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/10/09/circumcision-autism-tylenol-kennedy-trump-rfk/86606151007/

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

A respected academic telling me that something or another in data is "suggestive" means something. From a rando pseudoscientist working from the armchair, it means fuck all.

[-] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 84 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

One Texas AG lawsuit, and they panic and rescind because they know their bullshit won't hold up on court. Texas for the win????? 🤦‍♂️

[-] Mist101@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

~(つˆ0ˆ)つ。☆ The stars at night are big and bright clap clap clap clap

[-] darvocet@infosec.pub 8 points 6 days ago

As a native Texan i want to make clear that there is never a situation where someone yells out "the stars at night are big and bright" and everyone claps.

That being said if it were to happen, absolutely everyone would clap.

[-] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 days ago

No man, I saw it on a documentary about the Alamo.

[-] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

The great American explorer Peewee Herman.

[-] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 80 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wonder how this will stack up in Texas's lawsuit. Not that American law matters anymore....

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