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Health Secretary Kennedy says there's 'not sufficient' proof to show Tylenol causes autism (eu.usatoday.com)

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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 107 points 1 week ago

"The causative association . . . between Tylenol given in pregnancy and the perinatal periods is not sufficient to say it definitely causes autism. But it is very suggestive," Kennedy told reporters, citing animal, blood and observational studies.

Was what he actually said, the headline is click bait.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

that not clickbait, it's called paraphrasing

can't put the entire paraghaph as a headline

[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 35 points 1 week ago

Its deliberately obfuscating a critical part of the quote in order to get more attention.

Its clickbait.

[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

You're both right.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

what part?

how would you have worded the headline to avoid what you call clickbait?

[-] drosophila 4 points 6 days ago

Evidence linking Tylenol and autism not definitive "but very suggestive", says health secretary Kennedy.

[-] theolodis@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

"Suggestive evidence is information that hints at a particular conclusion but is not conclusive on its own."

So in short, is there no conclusive evidence linking it to autism?

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Why is this "critical part"? Kennedy being a lunatic with ZERO CREDIBILITY...

why would you base ANY medical decision on a guy who actually said "you shouldn't base any medical decision on my advice"?

[-] drosophila 3 points 6 days ago

I wouldn't lmao

I just think the headline shouldn't sanewash him

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

do you think that's sane washing? and here I am arguing thinking you are defending this lunatic

[-] stray@pawb.social 9 points 1 week ago

I think a more accurate paraphrasing would be that he said studies suggest Tylenol during pregnancy causes autism.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

What "studies"? you are now literally making things up and pretending this is less clickbait?

A month later, Trump and Kennedy, neither of whom are doctors, held a press conference in September to specifically warn pregnant women against taking the medication without citing any scientific evidence.

Even the FDA, under these absolute morons, cannot come up with anything to throw at Acetaminophen

"The FDA is responding to prior clinical and laboratory studies that suggest a potential association between acetaminophen use during pregnancy and adverse neurodevelopmental outcomes," the agency said in its announcement. "FDA also recognizes that there are contrary studies showing no association and that there can be risks for untreated fever in pregnancy, both for the mother and fetus. "

[-] stray@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago

"The causative association with, between Tylenol given in pregnancy and the perinatal periods is not sufficient to say it definitely causes autism. But it is very suggestive," Kennedy told reporters, citing animal, blood and observational studies.

From the OP article, emphasis mine.

Even the quote you shared says "prior clinical and laboratory studies".

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

yes but they have provided no such "studies" to "suggest" this link... it is literally the opinion, without ANY SUBSTANCE, of a guy who chooses to swim in an open sewer

[-] stray@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago

But they're reporting on what he said, and what he said is that studies suggest a causal link. It doesn't matter whether or not he's lying about it. The headline as written suggests he's changing his tune on the alleged Tylenol/autism connection, but he isn't.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

He is changing his tune now that lawsuits started flying

They outright came out saying Tylenol during pregnancy causes autism a few weeks back... now they acknowledge they are full of shit but added a "suggest" to save some face.

Again, the gist of this news is that he is backtracking. To expect they will quote everything he said in the headline is nonsense (specially when it literally is nonsense), otherwise you'd expect the headline to contain the entire article

[-] stray@pawb.social 2 points 6 days ago

I don't agree with that read of the situation given these quotes from the article:

Kennedy has couched his statements by saying there was no clear scientific evidence showing causation: During a Cabinet meeting on Oct. 9 with Trump, Kennedy said: "Anybody who takes the stuff during pregnancy unless they have to, is irresponsible. It is not proof. We’re doing the studies to make the proof."

Asked if Kennedy's latest comments signaled a softening of his stance on the issue, Emily G. Hilliard, Health and Human Services press secretary, said: "It’s the same position the Secretary has had since the beginning."

Further detail on that quote from the 9th:

Kennedy acknowledged that studies haven’t proven that acetaminophen causes autism, but that correlations with its use are so strong that it would be irresponsible to ignore.

"It’s not dispositive that it causes autism," Kennedy said. "It’s so suggestive that anybody who takes the stuff during pregnancy is irresponsible."

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/10/09/circumcision-autism-tylenol-kennedy-trump-rfk/86606151007/

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

A respected academic telling me that something or another in data is "suggestive" means something. From a rando pseudoscientist working from the armchair, it means fuck all.