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[-] Fermion@mander.xyz 124 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Billionaires still don't get that their fear and outrage is a ringing endorsement for someone like Mamdani. Every dollar they spend implies many more dollars available to be collected by the city. Their best strategy would have been utter indifference. I guess now we know who has a terrible poker face.

[-] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 57 points 1 month ago

"He's spending more money than that I would even tax him... Habibi, I don't even want that much" - Zorhan Mamdani on Bill Ackerman's efforts to buy the election.

[-] Aeao@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It gotten to the point every time a see a political add and it’s like

“Do you want puppies to be happy? Then vote yes on prop 106b to stop people from killing puppies with chainsaws”

So I go look it up and it’s like “106b passing would mean Elon musk can personally kick us in the balls every morning… I feel like that advertisement was a bit misleading… he nearly got me that time… why does he want to kick me in the balls so bad? It’s getting weird “

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

billionaires arent exactly known for thier subtlety, they are all narcissists that require sycophants to surround them.

[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 79 points 1 month ago

This just shows how much they want to keep living and working in NYC. So he can raise their taxes to the same amount they would pay in New Jersey and they will stay, because they want to do business and go to Broadway shows.

Life for poor people might get slightly better. Rich people might not even notice 2% more taxes paid but the person serving them at a Michelin star restaurant might have a real smile on their face instead of a fake one.

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fuck that. Kick them out. Tax them until they have to live like human beings if they want to stay in new york. If they're the enemy, and they are, he should treat them like it.

These scum should be punished for buying elections. And, you know; everything else they do.

[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Zohran shouldn't increase their taxes too much. If he can raise it this tiny unnoticeable amount and get lower rents, free busses, cheaper childcare, and lower food prices then it will show other cities and states what they can do with taxing these greedy assholes. Then in the next federal election cycle someone like him can come in and push for a bigger tax rise federally for these robber barons. Give them tax hikes or give them a one way trip to the guillotine basket, suddenly taxes won't seem like such a bother.

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fuck that. Show what he can get for people nailing them to the wall and bleeding them like they bleed us.

It's fucking new York; they won't all leave. And if they do it's still a win.

And its not like they'll treat a more moderate move like less of an attack than fully raiding the banks taking theironey out in gold and disbanding the nypd¹

¹it turns out I complain about the LAPD enough my autocorrect just turns all cops into them, and I didnt catch it.

[-] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 73 points 1 month ago

The thing I think a lot of people miss when talking about how harshly billionaires oppose him, is that the billionaires are not afraid of a socialist, or a democratic socialist, or paying 2% more in taxes. Not just that anyway.

They are afraid of having elected officials they can't buy. If you're a billionaire, it doesn't matter if Cuomo, or Adams wins. You may have a preference, but you can "donate to" either of those guys. They'll take the money.

Taxes are nothing compared to the way they fear public support for ethical, economic-populism.

The irony is they could have gotten rid of him for a fraction of the cost, by donating to him and when asked about it after the fact saying they'd "come to an understanding" with his campaign. That would erode trust faster than all the racist mailers money can buy.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 4 points 1 month ago

It is entirely about control to them and making everyone beneath them their bitch. If you could logically argue that for 1% of their networth they can turn the planet into a paradise and have a 100% approval rating among the entire world and people would be building statues of them and singing songs of praise centuries after they die they would still say no to that. Because everything has to be about them being in control and ordering everyone and everything.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 month ago

Lauder, a Republican, has long been a financial supporter of Cuomo. He is the president of the World Jewish Congress.

Those two sentences alone say a lot more about Cuomo, power brokering, and the inherent corruption at the heart of the system than the leadership of either major party wants you to know.

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[-] Binturong@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 month ago

Amazing how they'll spend all that money to protect their comfort and exploitation but NOT just PAY THEIR TAXES at a reasonable rate?? They cannot see how this is a brain sickness and their money has made them disordered hoarders and a drain on society. People would like them if they just put the money back into the system that enabled them to extract it in the first place, but they don't understand the concept of enough. Frankly, they need to be saved from their money just as much as we need to be saved from their greed.

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

As Mamdani has said, some of them are literally spending more money than he would tax them which just shows how poisoned they are.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I had to read this six times before it would stick to my brain. I literally couldn't believe it on some deep, fundamental level.

"Poisoned" is right. I'd love to hear what psychology is at work here, because it ain't a matter of basic math.

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Not poisoned enough IMHO.

[-] frezik 4 points 1 month ago

The "you have mettled, Mr Beale" rant has a lot of truth to it in the sense that it reveals their actual motivations.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Just remember that a lot of the money that these people have has been stolen from the people who have worked for them and their companies whom they've grossly underpaid, some of them for literally decades.

[-] Binturong@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

I can't forget. Wage theft is the most common crime today, and the same criminals have the gall to point at poor people stealing diapers for their children who are hungry cause the wages aren't livable IF they even get paid. It's sick and it has to change.

[-] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Capital possesses men like a demon.

[-] DaMummy@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

That's not the last ditch. Kirking him is in their repertoire.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is the one assassination that I know would be a real inside job. Kirk was killed by a nutcase groyper, and whoever killed Thompson was pissed off at the 'healthcare' system (and no it wasn't Luigi).

[-] DaMummy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Don't agree with you on the nutcase groyper part. Unless they infiltrated Turning Point USA deeply, had their own security guards watching Kirk, some of Kirks best friends were double agents, and they figured out how to inject Kirk with the same stuff Wolverine got and made his bones a miracle that can stop a .30-06 bullet.

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago
[-] prole 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The reign of terror in France led to Napoleon becoming emperor. It was not even a short term solution, let alone long term. It would probably be cathartic, but I don't think it would repair democracy.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

You should read about Napoleon. He was actually a pretty decent ruler. This is by no means an endorsement of authoritarian rule "so long as it's the right ruler". But when you look at the what existed before and what came immediately after, I believe he's unfairly maligned.

[-] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

My impression is he didn't know when to stop. He could have had a much longer lasting rule of a decent sized territory, but he never stopped spending tens of thousands of soldiers lives on expansion.

[-] cabillaud@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The Reign of Terror didn't lead to Napoléon beeing emperor, there has been at least 5 years of another regime between the two

[-] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

What a joke.

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If Mamdani isn’t planning on running an ad hilighting how all these rich fucks are piling on against him… that’s a big missed opportunity

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

billionaire philanthropist

Has there ever been a more bullshit term in the entirety of the English language?

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

The poorest billionaire could give away 90% of their fortune, and still earn more a year through interest on the remaining wealth than a normal person will in their entire life.

So no.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 month ago

Ooh, it's in a week. I'm excited!

I'm not even American. Nor do I plan to step foot in the US until the current crisis is over. But growing up with movies and shows set in what is probably an overly romanticized version of NYC and then actually visiting the city briefly a few years ago, it still seems like such an amazing place. Perhaps not for the many, many New Yorkers who can't afford it (which Mamdani is trying to fix after all), but in general... You just walk around and behind every corner there's something interesting. No need to go to the tourist traps, because the entire city is cool and so alive.

Before a bunch of things happened in my life that tied me down for the next 2 decades or so, I wanted to see if I could get a tech job in NYC. Financially it doesn't seem as great as the Bay Area, but I like the dense city with the subway and everything. Envisioned myself living in a fancy apartment complex that has its own gym and pool one day lol

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

how can you be so deluded?

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Deluded about what in particular? That NYC can be kinda awesome, or that I could afford a nice place there?

It was a bit of a 6-7 year plan, which I started on before the job market for software engineers went to shit. I wouldn't have moved to the US for anything less than a senior position at a big tech company anyway. At least 300k total comp annually, otherwise I was gonna stay in the EU where I already am.

Of course, the job market changed and my own life circumstances changed too. Now it's not on my radar anymore.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Honestly it's probably for the best. 300k/yr (USD) is closer to Sr. Director or Leadership-level money. And maybe that's you? But you're not going to see anything close to that as a senior manager or programmer. Then there's the work-life balance; unless you can afford to live in one of the five buroughs, a commute from outside NYC may make it all very unattractive. Also, I don't know what companies you were looking into, or how much professional drive you have, but a lot of the high paying jobs there are in finance (wall street). These are incredibly high-pressure positions for the money.

I know that tech jobs don't pay the same in the EU, but you may have access to more perks and possibly a higher-quality of life. It really depends on what you value more. Honestly, while I can't advise you realize that NYC dream you have/had, it may be for the best.

I will say that I worked for one week on a business trip in NYC once. I was able to comfortably walk from the train station, to my hotel, and to the shared office-space we leased for the event. It was easy to romanticize being in such a lively place, all within mere minutes of where I was sleeping. Sadly, there was no way to achieve that work/life balance in that place without at least tripling my income. However, it did make me think about how dissatisfied I was in suburbia, and I wound up moving to a small city as a compromise.

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[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago

He needs to do everything he can to nail their balls to two different horses running opposite directions.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago

I think their dicks should go one way and balls another...

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Adding a third and fourth horse for their dicks¹ is totally reasonsonable, but I feel like there are better non-horse-related solutions here.

¹in front and behind

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[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Let them waste their money

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

What? He sold out faster than you can say SSanders.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Beyond "just read the article," let's have a little bit more "just read the actual headline."

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[-] not_IO 3 points 1 month ago

what does the article mean by "x gave y $ to 'fix the city'"? it's in each of the billionairs listed

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fix the City, Inc., is an independent expenditure committee (IE) organized under New York law that was initially established to support the mayoral candidacy of Andrew Cuomo and expanded its mission in June 2025 to oppose the election of Zohran Mamdani.

Their website is straight up ad-hominem propaganda against Mamdani.

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