You can always walk in like an adult
Industrial society and it's consequences.
divorce, ffs
I didn't know they updated their logo to give the owl a vag wing

Nothing like getting mediocre food served by a waitress who hates her job and regrets the life choices that led her to it.
The good news is that some of them don't hate their jobs, and appreciate the money and high tips without having to ride a pole.
Granted, it's perspective in contrast to diner wait staff (a high-suicide job) and professional stripping (a high-turnover job) so still not great.
Does this man not know how to type "boobs" into a search engine?
You can watch a video of someone eating an A5 wagyu steak, but I'd rather eat a less expensive steak myself. Pixels vs reality...
No where near the same thing, you can't touch either pair of boobs.
You can look at pictures of animals on the internet, or you can visit a zoo
Not exactly the same but seeing actual people, talking to them, interacting vs. watching something on a computer screen is also no where near the same thing.
Yes the former is far worse.
Yeah but you can sniff them
His wife has parental controls on the home computer.
LOL
There was a heartwarming essay in the NYT awhile back called "Why Dads Take Their Gay Sons to Hooters" by Peter Rothpletz.
As much as I find the ("all men are terrible"/"not all men"/"haha you said not all men that means you're bad too") dynamic popular lately to be exhausting and stupid, men do have a major cultural problem.
That was a really good read. I never realized men taking their queer kids to hooters was a thing, good to know at least the servers had the kids' backs
I'd be tempted in fiction to make Hooters a secret line of temples to Athena the way Nike outlets are... well... temples to Nike.
That was brilliant. I thoroughly enjoyed that.
It reminded me I f my own faithful trip to hooters with a friend and his father.
I don't think I know what was going on there, but I did feel like it was super awkward because they were talking about the waitress like she wasn't there.
I mostly remember the wings we had were not very good.
Wings should not be battered with cornmeal. Though I don't eat that much meat anymore.
Cornmeal is for seafood and okra. I am fully willing and committed to dying on this hill.
I never had the hooters experience, I had more of a "self-imposed secret conversation therapy" and being bi certainly helped to pass.
Lifelong identity issues and anxiety are worth it to avoid the travesty of cornmeal on chicken imo.
Thanks for linking that. Loved it.
This made me smile :)
Have been to Los Angeles for a short time with friends and of course we tried several fast foods. We decided to go to Hooters just for fun, but the food was surprisingly the most decent of those we tried, and also reasonably priced. Of course we could see a lot of creepy around us and it was a little unconfortable seeing some ~~clearly underage~~(apparently >18 yo) girls just being there for their boobs.
The US really is a weird place...
The minimum age to work there is 18 since the workers often serve alcohol, so it's highly unlikely you actually saw anyone underage working there.
Ok that makes sense, still didn't look like so lol
I think we're just old. Anyone under like 25 looks like they should still be in school to me.
I'm 24 so I don't think that's the case lol, they just appear to be dressed like teenagers.
Oh, I'm 45.
Shouldn't you be in school, laddie?
Launching my new food delivery service tomorrow called Tots™ we only deliver tater-tots but every driver is stacked and scantily clad 😎
I think you mean Thots™
One of my friends proposed 'toys for thots.' A 501c program helping subsidize the start up costs for begining only fans models via crowd sourced low interest loans, with the interest going into future loans.
a little scenery, if you catch my drift
You're leaving a review for Hooters; there's really no need for subtlety.
I honestly think that a large part of their appeal is that you can pretend to be subtle
odd, who would have known that just being honest with your partner would be the best for you and them.
Porn is cheap. Don't be a creep.
I don't know what to think about this.
While I don't intend to visit hooter, strip clubs or anything alike and I think people can be creeps even if they are acting completely within the consent of others.
But how is a man who wants to go to hooters a creep but a man who wants to consumes porn not? The exploitation of women in porn is arguably worse because while they consent to the recording (i mean if not... I don't need to continue my point) oftentimes they sell all their rights and lose all control over the recording. Consequently there is no backing out if they no longer want to be seen like that. (Of course, there are other issues) If you work for hooters, you know wtf is going on before you were hired and if you quit, you are not longer exposed.
So what is creepy about hooters but not about porn?
Is it the simple fact that the man seeks out some kind of sexualized interact with the woman?
The power dynamic between the porn actress and customer is different than between restaurant server and patron. The porn is filmed in a controlled environment, and even the live streams can be quit at any time. At a restaurant, the women are operating in a live environment, and their income is dependent on the patrons' whims. The rules are fuzzy and you don't know if your patron is going to understand the difference between friendly flirting and sexual attraction.
I got dragged to a strip club for a friend's birthday. They were especially gross at the time in WA because you couldn't drink at them. We were already drunk enough though.
Anyway, got a lap dance for $20. The first 30 seconds were the stripper explaining to me what I'm allowed to do. I.e. apparently you can rub your face on her boobs, but hands stay put. I'm sure if I broke that rule, a bouncer would beat the shit out of me. To maintain the "family friendly atmosphere," restaurants like Hooters operate more on nuance that some patrons (like the person this post is about) may not understand.
Porn is filmed in a controlled environment
Controlled by whom? For whose benefit?
This bit, on which a lot of the argument hinges, seems rather rose-tinted. An alarming number of women report being coerced into doing more than they agreed to, once on set.
This is in no way condoning the practice, only describing why it happens, but a lot of dudes actually derive some kind of pleasure or satisfaction at knowing they've made someone else uncomfortable. That motivation generally steers them towards in-person interactions.
You have to wonder, is the wife doing this specifically and only to fuck with her husband, or does their take-out food actually have decent price-performance in some way? Maybe the food arrives really fast, or they have some dish that they excel at that no other place in the vicinity has? Maybe their chicken wings are just cheaper than KFC?
I wouldn't be caught dead ordering food from a service like uber eats. The amount of distress that you would have to inflict upon me for me to even consider Uber Eats would be insane.
Purchasing a meal from ubereats means suffering an obscene markup that means it will always make more sense for me to go myself.
Here’s a hypothetical scenario to illustrate:
In-store price for a meal: $20
On Uber Eats:
Restaurant might mark it up 15-30% → $23-$26 just for the food, that's not so bad, buuuut...
Plus delivery fee (say $4) + service fee (say $3) + tip (say $3) → total $33-$36
That means you’re paying ~60-80% more than going to the restaurant or picking up.
In some cases (especially for smaller meals or chain fast-food), the total jump can exceed 100% more just because you don't want to drive ten minutes down the road.
Oh and that's ignoring the fact that they might do something insane like eat your food or throw it into the bushes or drive around in a circle serving other people and wait for you until the end so by the time you get it your food is stone cold.
Basically the only excuse that I will accept for Uber Eats is if you suffer from some kind of physical disability that actually prevents you from leaving your home.
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