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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

So what is Microsoft going to be doing?

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 48 minutes ago

Copilot on PS5, somehow

[-] ADTJ@feddit.uk 3 points 39 minutes ago

Buying the successful studios to obtain their IP and then sacking all the employees to cut costs.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Open source “Xbox”:

  • Peg the performance requirements and a utility to verify them.
  • Allow devs to build games with those specs in mind.
  • filter in the store for games built for that spec.
[-] Truscape 1 points 34 minutes ago

"We have steam deck verification at home"

  • Microsoft (in a year)
[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

Like Nintendo, who still sue emulators.

[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 36 points 12 hours ago

Nice idea to make Xbox and PC one platform, but given how badly the ROG Xbox handheld was implemented (since you can't play Xbox games on this "Xbox"), good luck with that.

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago

Doesn't it fully support GamePass? Doesn't GamePass have all the XBox games?

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 41 minutes ago

Yes. Kinda. Some games from the X1 era aren't available on PC, like Halo 5. X360 games that are backwards compatible but weren't actually released for PC, like Red Dead Redemption, won't be available either.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 points 6 hours ago

Problem isn't that, since the handheld is just running windows it can only run games with a PC release. If the game was never ported to PC they currently have no way to play it. They really thought through the whole release real well.

[-] frezik 1 points 5 hours ago

Wonder if this will force the issue on a PC release of GTA VI sooner rather than later.

Or maybe Rockstar won't care.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Honestly I'm surprised they're still thinking about that. The last major release they had was RDR2 in 2018. That was 7 years ago now. In that time not only have handhelds and more PC devices exploded but also PCs as a whole thanks to COVID. It's just more popular than it ever was. If they go forward with console only they better have a massive kickback from Sony now that Xbox isn't playing as much, otherwise they're missing out on tons of sales.

Edit: Actually writing that out, I bet the PC port is planned a year behind and always was, but GTA 6 was planned years ago before the boom. I wonder if we'll see RDR3's PC come at the same time.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 64 points 15 hours ago

This is the asshole who presided over a significant portion of the enshittification of both Xbox and Blizzard, so we know exactly what his opinion is worth

[-] Agent_Karyo@piefed.world 21 points 14 hours ago

I would argue that this actually makes his opinion more relevant, as executive management is more likely to think like Ybarra, as opposed to someone that regrets the decline of Blizzard.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Know your ~~enemy~~ corporate overlord, eh?

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 hours ago
[-] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 66 points 16 hours ago

So consoles are basically becoming branded gaming pcs?

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 hours ago

More accurately, PCs are becoming consoles, but yes, they want to converge it all into a locked down hardware as a service industry.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 40 minutes ago

PCs are becoming consoles

The Amiga dream is finally coming true

[-] Truscape 1 points 33 minutes ago

Microsoft approved PCs are becoming consoles.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 hours ago

The PS Triple/360 generation was the last time that wasn't the case

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 46 points 16 hours ago

They kind of been for a while. At least architecture wise but with the new Xbox ROG handheld you can access your steam library or install a different OS like Bazzite altogether. You can‘t play your Xbox games on it though, which probably means the days of Xbox as a console are over. But Xbox players must‘ve known they won‘t be able to transfer their game library to new device anyway.

[-] Truscape 16 points 15 hours ago

Not all Xbox players, clearly. With Microsoft doubling down on not having any physical media containing the full retail game on disk from Xbox 1 onwards, every one of those accounts are hosed unless they have an archive of all the downloaded files needed.

My advice to them - mod your consoles (360 and below) if you have them, rip your discs, and get ready for when Xbox services (for console hardware) are sunset.

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 12 points 15 hours ago

To be honest, once that starts happening I wont be worried about my digital library. I'll be so pissed that ill just stop spending any money on any games ever again. I'll be back to sailing the high seas.

[-] Truscape 22 points 15 hours ago

Come to the PC world then. We have free mods, no online subscriptions, DRM-free gaming, and open-source software no one can take from you.

[-] Truscape 15 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Have been since the 8th generation, unless you count Nintendo, whose 8th gen (Wii U) was a PowerPC Architecture (Mac), and 9th gen onward is a glorified Android phone with a dedicated GPU.

[-] Anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

All 3 consoles of that generation (PS 3, Xbox 360 and Wii) used custom PowerPC cores suplied by IBM.

Before anyone says anything, Yes, the Cell CPU on the PS3 had a PPC core paired with 7 vectorual units, so it counts.

[-] Truscape 1 points 5 hours ago

That's 7th generation. 8th generation is PS4, Xbox 1, and Wii U.

[-] Agent_Karyo@piefed.world 17 points 16 hours ago

I guess it depends on how you define PC. But older consoles also used CPUs that were found in desktops (and laptops), although they weren't PCs in the strict sense.

  • Sega Mega Drive (and other consoles) used the Motorola 68K that was also used on Macintosh and Amiga.
  • Game Gear and Sega Master System used the Zilog Z80 which was also used in the ZX Spectrum and other computers.
  • N64, PSOne, PS2 used MIPS CPUs which were often used in high-end computer systems (SGI).

Consoles did often have custom GPUs though.

That being said, these days both Playstation and Xbox are literally locked down, custom form factor, AMD Ryzen CPU + Radeon GPU PCs.

[-] Truscape 10 points 16 hours ago

I think the bar is effectively "x86 architecture and could theoretically at least run linux" (in which case the original xbox would qualify)

[-] Agent_Karyo@piefed.world 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I wouldn't limit it to x86 though.

Playstation 2 supported Linux and it ran MIPS, which was the architecture used in SGI Indigo systems, perhaps most famously seen in Jurassic Park's "it's a UNIX system" scene.

It seems that even Playstation One has an (early) public Linux port.

There is no right answer of course. :)

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[-] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 6 points 14 hours ago

Yeah I define PC less by the hardware but whether I can install whatever OS I want and whatever programs I want without restrictions, which consoles don't let you do. And consoles these days are way more powerful than PCs from decades ago yet still crippled when it comes to expected PC functions.

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[-] rozodru@piefed.social 3 points 12 hours ago

I believe if a new generation of consoles are released they're just going to be glorified streaming boxes. Sony has pretty much hit a plateau as far as graphics go, there's not much you can improve upon now. And sure people are cancelling and complaining about gamepass but Microsoft might just go the route of "we'll tell you what you want, and if you want this exclusive you'll have no choice but to subscribe".

So you'll pay for this streaming box, you'll get maybe a couple months of the subscription for free, then you'll pay $30 to $50 a month to get access to their catalog. Sony and Nintendo will follow suite. If you want to actually "own" anything you'll play on PC and even then that's truly up for debate. Like do you actually own the content you buy on Steam?

[-] Truscape 2 points 5 hours ago

Steam as a platform is easy to crack (that's why so many steam game repacks circulate), but there's a degree of expected stability due to their reputation for the Steam platform's longevity built over two decades. Additionally, their status as a private company with no external pressure puts them ahead of MS, Sony, and Nintendo in terms of future turbulence.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Like do you actually own the content you buy on Steam?

That's why piracy is also an option.

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[-] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago

I would love it if I could play all my Xbox games on any PC that has the correct specs.

If I have to keep game pass to play the games I purchased then we'll have a problem.

[-] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 13 points 16 hours ago

I kind hated whenever i was looking at solutions to running pc game pass games on my steam deck, everyone was like: "install edge it works on Linux, that will let you stream the game."

Like, that was not what I was looking for. It also required you to go to a higher tier of sub.

Both happy and sad that I already canceled it.

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[-] troed@fedia.io 14 points 16 hours ago

Hate to agree but yeah. We're buying everything for Steam now since we put a Steambox (Bazzite) in the gaming room. The PS5s are now just legacy boxes.

[-] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 11 points 14 hours ago

That would be the case for techy people like us, but growing number of people cant handle anything more complicated than a phone OS these days that I think consoles will continue to have a purpose.

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