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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 31 points 1 day ago

That advice only makes the situation worse. If you are applying to 100 postings a week, you are almost certainly applying to jobs you aren't qualified for, or don't really want. You're just playing the numbers game.

On the other side of it, HR departments are getting so many applications from unqualified people who are playing the numbers game, that eventually they just cut off the flow of incoming applications, qualified and unqualified alike.

I've often seen my son apply to great jobs that he is absolutely qualified for, and would be great for both himself and the employer, only to get a letter that they have closed applications due to the overwhelming response. If there weren't so many unqualified applicants pumping up their useless personal numbers, maybe he'd make the cut for interviews, where he can shine, and get the job. But he never gets that far because of unqualified resume spammers bogging down HR.

Everybody should do everybody else a favor, and just apply for the jobs that your are qualified, and want to accept.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 24 minutes ago

No you're not putting this on everyone else this is on the companies.

If they didn't require 5 + years of experience in every job role then there wouldn't be a large amount of unqualified applicants. Pick any technology at all, including ones that came out 45 minutes ago, and it'll require 5 plus years of experience. I saw a job that wanted 2 years worth of experience in a technology that is still in beta and hasn't even officially been publicly released yet.

[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 day ago

Everybody should do everybody else a favor, and just apply for the jobs that your are qualified, and want to accept.

This is what I do. This is also why I've been unemployed for more than a year.

[-] Baguette 10 points 1 day ago

I think you're putting too much blame on others rather than the companies themselves. For comp sci, entry level simply doesn't exist anymore. The lowest amount of experience required is about 2 years now. Chances are if you just graduated, there's no real entry level job for you.

The recruiter process is also notoriously bad at any part of the application. I had applications straight up ghosted, responses two years after I applied, responses that they already decided to move with another candidate despite the job listing still open, even a 3 hr interview where I was told I would meet the team (as in personality test), only for it to end up as a 3 hr technical. This was back in 2021 2022, and from what I've heard, it has only gotten worse.

[-] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

I applied to over 600, and got two interviews. Neither worked out to be anything. Then, I said fuck it and started my own freelance business.

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago

Half the jobs aren't even real listings, they are just there so the company looks prosperous (by having job openings) and so they can have your data.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Correct answer and it's probably way higher than 50% now days.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Now I doubt they used the same account, but I'd feel obligated to give 'yaoipilled kai, jellopussy' an interview at the very least.

[-] josephc@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

If each job takes 30 minutes to apply to, that's 50 hours per week, assuming you don't stop to eat or rest. I think my average job application takes a little longer unless I fill it with bullshit answers.

That's assuming you're just filling applications. It doesn't include finding them. I think in the time I was unemployed I passed over a few hundred absolutely reprehensible and morally objectionable positions.

Why so much ghosting? My speculation is perverse incentives of the modern world. Recruiters and HR need to justify their ongoing existence so they open positions that don't need to get filled so they can spend time filtering candidates. Meanwhile, candidates need to turn to auto filling jobs because and bulk applying because there are so many of these ghost jobs that recruiters who do need people can't get matched up. This turns into a race to the bottom of automation and counter automation where everyone loses.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

I’d hate to be a graduate or junior developer at the moment. It was always rough but the market is rotting from the inside.

[-] ThelastfingerofH@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The decline of entry level jobs coincides with a rise in the number of senior level jobs across industries, especially project management

[-] BilSabab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

1500 is way overblown in this economy.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 day ago

There are not even 100 new jobs a week where I live, and that is including absolutely everything. Limiting to something I am vaguely skilled at? Fuck all jobs. About quarter of a million people if you combine the large town and next door city where I live and there is so little to find to apply to. Even worse when jobs give a wrong location name.

Job advertised as being in city with postcode AB1, actual role is in a town that isn't even on he same island as the city in AB6

[-] LadyAutumn 60 points 2 days ago

Actual genuine nightmare fuel. This is not a lifestyle conducive to human health. Living this way is killing us.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

It took me a couple hundred when I got laid off at Christmas last year. Was May before I got hired on again. I did hire an AI spamming service towards the end and I did start getting interviews off it, but ultimately found something on indeed. I still leave the spamming service running because, fuck HR and fuck their stupid systems, break them and make them figure out something else.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You need to not live in that area, or work that career.

I lost my job about a year before you did. Applied to maybeeee 10 places? I think fewer. Didn't even finish some of the take-home assignments because, honestly, my partner at the time was just riding me so hard I wanted to die and nothing else. Almost got one job - but the company ended up restructuring.

Ended up getting an unsolicited message from a recruiter 3 months into unemployment, took that job. Then one of the recruiters whose take-home I didn't complete emailed me to say hey we probably want you anyway, do you wanna discuss? I said sorry, not this time - I got an enticing job offer already. "Ok, congratulations! Feel free to let me know if it doesn't work out though"

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 72 points 2 days ago

He's right but he shouldn't be right.

[-] AHamSandwich@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

I both envy and pity those that can and need to blast out applications like this. There aren't 1500 open positions in my field in the country. As someone who struggles with doing nothing, application grinding would resolve a lot of anxiety.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

There aren't even 1500 open positions where I live, let alone in the same field. Most common is minimum wage care work, then random assortment of skilled/unskilled roles.

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago

If you’re sending out 1500 a week you have no identifiable skill set beyond existing. 1500 jobs that are relevant to 1 individual aren’t being posted every week.

[-] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 77 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's the thing: 1500 job listings does not mean 1500 jobs exist.

Half are companies that realized posting fake listings works as free marketing on LinkedIn. It's a real strategy: people start subscribing to their newsletter because LinkedIn offers that by default when you apply, and when somebody looks the company up, it creates the illusion they're booming and expanding.

Then of the remaining half, a half of that are fake listings that are actually AI companies that get you to record five minutes of audio and take a picture during your "application" and under the fine print you're allowing them to use your voice and resell it. Not joking.

Then you do have the remainder which are the real jobs. Of that remainder, more than half will be evaluated by an AI which may or may not take your skills into consideration, understand the formatting of your resume or even fully appreciate what the position entails.

Welcome to 2025, don't you love it? You need to answer that you love it by the way because we are monitoring your social media accounts and we have three cameras in your street and we don't like answers that bring the spirit down.

[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago

You’re forgetting the portion that are real jobs, but they already know they’re just changing an existing employee’s job title, but HR makes them post a job for it anyway to seem fair.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Dont forget the H1B ones. To hire (at half salary) a foreigner, by law they need to prove that the job cannot be done by a US employee. So they post a fake opening, with those "entry level 15 years experience in afield that existed 10 years" to justify the hiring

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[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

I wasn't even reading job descriptions last time. I just indiscriminately applied to everything and only read about the positions that replied back with a maybe. If they don't allow the LinkedIn auto-apply, then I'm not filling out a form on their special unique website.

This is their problem, not mine.

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

yea well they deserve to be flooded with AI applications so just give them what they earned

[-] TheWonderfool@lemmy.world 191 points 2 days ago

Wow... So you are expected to feel ghosted/rejected 100 times a week, and upwards to 1500 in total? I wonder how healthy that must be for your psyche...

[-] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 92 points 2 days ago

We didn't have psyches back in the day. Just a can-do attitude and strong values.

And a bottle of alcohol too many here and there. And hobbies such as beating your wife black and blue in front of your kids. And fatal accidents from speeding around in our souped up cars.

Just none of that psyche shit, okay?

SLASH S.

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[-] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 143 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Also, every interview:

"So, why do you want to work with us, specifically?"

[-] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

I hate this question.

"So why do you want to work with us?"

"Because you corpo cunts are going to steal less of the value my labor produces and help me afford teeth."

[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 88 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, specifically, I need money for housing, bills, and food.
Also, specifically, you gave me an interview so I'm now really interested in working...at wherever this place is. That's it, really.
...
I mean, yeah, I could blow smoke up your arse if you really wan me to. But I would hope you'd have the intelligence to realise that it's bullshit and that nowadays it's all about money. I whore my time out and you give me money. When do I start?

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[-] Wolfram@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago

If I had to spray and pray 1500 resumes I'd be suicidal.

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Haha, not me. I've gone past that to casual despair.

[-] decended_being@midwest.social 36 points 2 days ago

I'm about 300+ deep and let me tell you...

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[-] ashughes@feddit.uk 30 points 2 days ago

Yeah, no thanks. I choose a life of poverty instead. Enjoy your grind in a collapsing system.

Poverty for me means losing access to the medicines that keep me alive, or I would be right there with you. I wish I could just be a hobbit subsistence farmer so bad but I got bills 🥲 So I keep turning the crank until another option becomes viable.

[-] abbiistabbii 38 points 2 days ago

Yeah that's just a psychopathic take.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 98 points 2 days ago

Jesus.

Look, I already realized I was living life on easy mode, but this post drives it home more.

I've applied for a job exactly five times in my life. I've gotten five interviews. And I've gotten four offers, all of which I accepted. I've never been unemployed for even a day, nor had to settle for staying where I was working for lack of available positions/job-listings.

The one time I didn't get an offer after an interview, the listing said they wanted "Python experience" (which I had quite a bit of), but in the interview they told me they were switching to C# (which I had never touched in my life). They passed me over ostensibly in favor of another applicant with C# experience. Kinda wasted both my and their time with that one. But it was very shortly thereafter that I landed another job. (As Java dev, which is gross, but I've got no right to complain in a thread about people getting interviews on less than 1% of their applications.)

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[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 89 points 2 days ago

From my understanding depending on industry and geographic area “Arthur” is correct.

When I do counseling with younger people who have graduated school recently or whatever over the last 2 years or so this seems to be the situation for those that get 60-80k jobs. The search itself is an insane grind.

I graduated college in 2008 and it wasn’t even this bad then. It took hundreds of applications over 6-8 months but not thousands over 12-18 which is what I’m seeing now from people.

It’s that bit where as a counselor sometimes I get people who are like “it was hopeless so I just gave up” and I’m like “well, yeah, makes sense”. Like you can only grind so hard before the system breaks you

[-] scrion@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago

It's not that they might be correct, it's the fact that it got this bad in the first place, and that people accept it.

Arthur should be equally devastated, pissed, burned out, not dismissive and potentially praising some made up grind while succumbing to survivor bias.

[-] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 37 points 2 days ago

Last time I applied for a job, I applied for 3 jobs, landed 2 interviews, got into the second round for both and took the one that matches the most with what I wanted and paid well.

Applying to 100+ jobs just sounds like spray and pray. This was admittedly 6 years ago and not in the US, but still if you already have experience it shouldn't be that hard.

Also admittedly, for my first job I applied for 30+ positions, getting into the second round once. After that I took a break from applying because I wanted to study up on how to actually land a job. After reading about how to conduct yourself in a job interview, I applied again and landed the first job I applied to.

All that to say that there is a certain skill required for applying and interviewing. Probably a hugely unpopular opinion here, but I stand by it.

[-] azdle@news.idlestate.org 31 points 2 days ago

That's how it used to be for me too, something has changed. Before this current job search, I'd never put out more than 4 applications to get a job. Now I've put out dozens (I refuse to spray and pray), and am still unemployed 6 months later.

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[-] Affidavit@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

My first job application as a spotty teenager landed me a job. This developed a false impression of the job market for baby me (in my country it's perfectly legal to pay minors less than the minimum wage, thus an incentive to exploit children).

My second job, in my spotty mid-twenties, took me around 100-300 applications, and I only ended up getting the job due to some programme that let companies get cheaper onboarding through a government scheme.

I'm in my spotty mid-thirties (I might have bad skin), I've had success only applying for the occasional job that actually interests me, and putting my best foot forward (each application generally takes 3-5 hours preparation). I'm fortunate enough to not be desperate though (employed, just seeking something better).

Even with LLMs, I think most employers are savvy enough to tell if a person is genuinely interested.

Side note: Don't use em dashes. I love em dashes—but so does ChatGPT—it's one of the first things a recruiter will look for apparently.

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[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I am so fucking happy my own business managed to get off the ground.

Job hunting suuuuuuuuucked. I knew I was good, but no-one noticed.

Now, my customers love me.

Edit: I just realized the other side of this equation means companies are expecting to get about 1500 applicants for every position they offer?! That's insane, and there is no chance a human is reviewing every application.

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[-] Lumelore 42 points 2 days ago

I got a CS degree earlier this year. I'm Autistic and am genuinely really passionate about it. I've put out hundreds of applications and got 1 interview but was ultimately rejected. I've tried applying to retail positions, even with a dumbed down resume so I don't look overqualified, and they don't want me either. I'm extremely low on money and I've been getting really bad panic attacks lately. I don't even know what to do anymore.

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