This definitely had a negative impact on my view of framework, can't say I'd buy from them again.

I’m amazed that they haven’t backtracked this yet. They’re just cool losing all those customers.

TL;DR for just updates since the initial story: Basically say that they believe Hyprland cleaned up after having an initial problem and totally ignores all the stuff about DHH, despite that seeming to be the biggest problem people had with what they've been doing.

being antifascist could only ever be "polarizing" if the person getting offended is an anti-antifascist aka a Nazi

I'll admit I'm not up to date on the hyprland/vaxry lore -- but I don't understand the level of outrage based on this article...

I'm also not sure why the sponsorship of a software project is necessarily being treated as a 100% endorsement of both the maintainers and their alleged views.

I'm also not sure if infighting and purity testing will help the movement(s) right now. Once it's the norm, sure, but it's still a relatively fringe movement within the industry.

Edit (2025-10-15@20:14): At the time of writing my comment, I was both unaware (and uninformed) on the DHH side of this topic. While I still think the level of outrage is maybe a melodramatic, the push back seems more warranted than it initially seemed to me. I still don't know much about DHH beyond Rails (and even then, not much); but from what I've seen since my comment, the response is more understandable.

Tech companies and preventable controversies: name a more iconic duo.

The weird thing for me is the financial support coming from Framework to Hyprland. It would be one thing if Framework was working with Hyprland to test compatibility and functionality on their machines and do specialized bug testing. They could kind of justify that from a purely technical stance.

But the fact that they picked a very niche project for no apparent reason to support with a significant monthly financial contribution is so strange. There are numerous other niche distros/projects that aren't mired in controversy that Framework could have worked with, (Alpine, Void, ElementaryOS, etc.) so why Hyprland/Omarchy?

Very disappointed. I've been pushing Framework computers very strongly for friends and family over the last year, plus I've been planning on getting one to replace my aging Thinkpad. Now I am going to hold off until the dust settles on this.

It was a yellow flag when Framework invested heavily into an affordable non-repairable, non-upgradable desktop designed for AI developers. "Let them make money," they said, as Framework positioned itself as a Trojan Horse to the ubiquitization of harmful AI.

This was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I was saving up for a Framework 16, but I'll just stick with my Thinkpad and get the next Steam Deck for gaming. It's really a shame that such an important company would support transphobia and white supremacy, not just rhetorically but financially, as Hyperland gets ₤600 a month from them and DHH gets ₤24,000 via Rails.

I know this will be a controversial take since Framework is so beloved, but that is just how I personally will choose to spend my money.

I love how they always portray projects like this as "politically polarizing". You look inside and it's always just plain old not-polarizing misogyny. Really shows where this "news" outlets stand.

Kindof amusing to see people call "purity testing" on people who object to someone who's quoted as being upset by checks notes a lack racial or ethnic purity.

[Sarcasm] C'mon everyone, can't we just get along and hold hands with racists and other people who consider the rest of us subhuman? As long as what they're doing doesn't bother me personally you're all overreacting and fragmenting this ~~nazi bar~~ community!

Edits: fiddling with phrasing :-\

I don't buy from fascist supporters if I can help it. Screw Framework

People here complaining about purity testing even though really it's just poison testing.

The standard isn't even if it's pure in ideology it's to test is not poisonous.

The problem here isn't that Framework failed to keep track of the ideology espoused by every major developer on the projects they contributed to or endorsed, which, to be honest, isn't something I'd expect of them. The problem (as usual for a corporation) is how they handled complaints. Trying to sweep stuff under the rug in the Internet age just results in someone setting the rug on fire. If instead, Framework's response had been "We're sorry, we didn't know, we won't give money or free advertising to any projects this guy is involved with from now on," the whole mess would have died down by now except for a few people grumbling about how they should do more research before sending money out.

Here‘s my take as a relatively tech savvy guy with no introspective into the Linux scene and its political affiliation: I’ll buy framework products because of the repairability and upgradability as long as I can run whatever I want on it.

Most consumers that are sustainability minded (like myself) have no clue what hyprland or omarchy is.

I’m sure it’s a big deal within a small niche but the average consumer won’t know or care.

its because tech companies are generally so out if touch with their userbase

Imagine the downfall of framework being the donations made to some obscure (tankie?) dev that a part of the community does not agree with. This toxic "holier than thou" attitude of the linux community leads to fragmentation and will be the doom of the linux phone project too, I swear. Someone will find an obscure package developed by an asshole/tankie/nazi/whatever and will rage about how the project is now immoral because the project devs support it and insist on a public boycott. Why do some people seem to be unable to separate the software from the developer? Framework or the software dev is not your friend. Is their hardware/software decent and open? Cool, then keep using it, tankie devs be damned, or at least fork it and make your own morally pure version. But this endless bickering over what devs support will lead to nothing good.

I don't support the views of the endorsed projects, but surely a better reaction would be to suggest alternatives instead of just screaming for outright dismissal? I keep reading that "omarchy is just a bunch of scripts" and "hyperland is just one tiling window manager". If that's the case, there probably are better alternatives no? Or if it's as easy as described why not fork it?

Complaining without an alternative or a solution is not productive, IMO

Context for those OOTL

DHH Is Way Worse Than I Thought

DHH: "London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late ’90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it’s no longer full of native Brits. In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third. A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now."

Author: It turns out that when DHH says “native Brits”, he’s specifically referring to white Brits. That’s why it’s “a statistic as clear as day when you walk the streets of London”: it’s his coy way of saying that too many of the 59% of Londoners born and raised in the UK are not white.

So if David means “white Brits”, why doesn’t he just say that? Why bother with the innuendo Because complaining that there aren’t enough white people sounds weird and racist! David bristles at that label, but there’s a reason he’s hiding behind euphemisms rather than just saying what he means. Most people don’t go around thinking “boy, all these Black and Asian people make this city so much worse.”