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Six days ago, upgradeable laptop maker Framework tried to convince its fractious user community to live in a "big tent" after a Debian developer objected to the company's sponsorship of Hyprland and its social media promotion of Omarchy, with both projects associated with politically polarizing viewpoints.

Antoine Beaupré, aka anarcat, demanded that Framework clarify its political position with regard to these two projects.

Hyprland, a Wayland compositor, is led by a "toxic and hateful community," Beaupré observed, and Omarchy, a Linux distribution, comes from David Heinemeier Hansson (aka DHH), a controversial figure in the Ruby and Linux communities.

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[-] amino 18 points 4 days ago

if I dip a pH strip in my drinking water and it indicates my water is acidic, am I not entitled to stop drinking from that source because it failed my purity test?

[-] jasory@programming.dev 4 points 4 days ago

Let's not confuse "entitled" with "justified". Of course you are legally entitled to boycott whatever you want, nobody seems to question that. The issue is whether or not you can be legitimately criticism for it.

Suppose that you had 20 glasses, you tested 4 of them and found that 2 were "too acidic". Are you then justified in drinking the other 18 glasses?

The reality is that you have probably personally supported people who are far more egregious than the subjects here. Abusers, murderers, rapists, etc... Is your support of them an endorsement of their actions? Is your/societies providing medical care to these people an endorsement of their actions?

No. We can parse between what actions we endorse and what actions we don't, because we are rational beings. Or rather some of us are.

[-] amino 24 points 4 days ago

it just sounds like you're bending over backwards to make trans and racialized people drink polluted water. and you're trying to convince the rest of us that the water is just fine actually because you have a reverse osmosis system installed (being cis or white)

[-] jasory@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

No, I pointing out that the filters don't actually work.

Transphobic and racist behaviour isn't going to disappear just because you boycott it.

The consequences of bigotry aren't reading mean tweets, it's going to a job interview and having the prospective employer think "eww.. I don't like this candidate". Boycotting is not going to fix that, because your purity test can't even detect it.

I don't purity test people because the reality is that most/all people have some harmful notions, it's not productive or good for anyone to ostracize them so long as we can promote the good they do, and mitigate the harm.

[-] amino 15 points 4 days ago
  1. where the fuck did you see me advocate for a boycott? you just made that up.

Transphobic and racist behaviour isn't going to disappear just because you boycott it.

  1. this is the only point I can agree on with apologists such as yourself. none of us have to boycott Nazis when shooting them is much more cheap and effective
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