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Framework flame war erupts over support of politically polarizing Linux projects (www.theregister.com)
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Six days ago, upgradeable laptop maker Framework tried to convince its fractious user community to live in a "big tent" after a Debian developer objected to the company's sponsorship of Hyprland and its social media promotion of Omarchy, with both projects associated with politically polarizing viewpoints.

Antoine Beaupré, aka anarcat, demanded that Framework clarify its political position with regard to these two projects.

Hyprland, a Wayland compositor, is led by a "toxic and hateful community," Beaupré observed, and Omarchy, a Linux distribution, comes from David Heinemeier Hansson (aka DHH), a controversial figure in the Ruby and Linux communities.

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

Context for those OOTL

DHH Is Way Worse Than I Thought

DHH: "London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late ’90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it’s no longer full of native Brits. In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third. A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now."

Author: It turns out that when DHH says “native Brits”, he’s specifically referring to white Brits. That’s why it’s “a statistic as clear as day when you walk the streets of London”: it’s his coy way of saying that too many of the 59% of Londoners born and raised in the UK are not white.

So if David means “white Brits”, why doesn’t he just say that? Why bother with the innuendo Because complaining that there aren’t enough white people sounds weird and racist! David bristles at that label, but there’s a reason he’s hiding behind euphemisms rather than just saying what he means. Most people don’t go around thinking “boy, all these Black and Asian people make this city so much worse.”

[-] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 days ago

Well, u should watch Kurt Caz on youtube. Checkout London, Barcelona, Brussel. Then tell me that there isn't a problem going on. Racism is not to be defended, but you can't just call everything racism when countries are going to shit.

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

But is the reason these countries are "going to shit" race related? And what exactly does "going to shit" mean?

Since you referenced Kurt Caz, a notorious racist and xenophobe, I'm guessing your answer is yes and "less white", but us adults in the room wonder about the real issues and their causes.

[-] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"Us adults" lol. Look at crime statistics. A certain minority causes a disproportionate amount of the crimes. Look I'm not white myself, and not all immigrants are bad. But lately EU has had a lot of problems because of refugees and migration. Housing shortages, increase in crime. It isn't just black and white. There is more nuance to it than too far right and being racist, and being too far left and ignoring that there are problems caused.

As for Kurt I only know him walking around in favelas hahah, so whoops not the best example. But his videos do show the growing problems in cities

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 12 points 6 days ago

You are being fed BS. There are no crime statistics that show this once you actually look at the data in an unbiased way, but there are a lot of people which present the data in ways that are easy to misunderstand (on purpose).

[-] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago

Possibly, no one is immune to propaganda. And I might be completely off by linking it to increase in migrations etc. But it's getting less appealing to be walking around alone at night in the major European Cities.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Why less appealing? There is no increase in crime or anything else that makes that less appealing (other than that a lot of small shops closed during the pandemic or are being priced out by real-estate speculators), you really need to stop believing the lies these social media influencers feed you.

[-] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago

Take the train to Brussel and let me know how you find it

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Perfectly fine, I was there not too long ago. Belgium has an alarmingly high suicide rate though. That is probably something that needs to be looked at and is a way more pressing topic than a largely imagined increase in downtown crime rate.

[-] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago

we can agree on the suicide rate being too high :p, these bleak winters certainly don't help up here in the north

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I've found it fine for the last decade but I base my opinions on data, not online influences and vibes.

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Given you're regurgitating bullshit that could be disproven by a child, yeah, you're not an an adult.

[-] vivendi@programming.dev 4 points 5 days ago

"You can't call everything racism!"

looks inside

Blatant Racism

mfw europeans are hitlerite

[-] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago

Grouping a whole folk as hitlerite, that's quite hypocritical good sir

[-] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

you had no problem grouping a whole folk as problematic but suddenly when its about you now you have a problem with it?

[-] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No i dont and just because my opinions are stupid that shouldn't mean that you can be hypocritical. I am stupid and know it, but you pointing out blame and doing it yourself is just funny

[-] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

I am stupid and I know it

Then why are you expecting me to be any better if you don't want to stop yourself here and begin the introspection?

Somehow you want people to read your arguments and change their opinion but when people ask you to do the same you just declare you are stupid and refuse to do the very thing that you expect others to do?

[-] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

correct, if u want to take the moral highground u can't be contradicting urself. Im not here to convince anyone, besides why would i document my whole introspection here? Maybe my opinion has changed after engaging on this post. That's what internet forums are for, u say stupid stuff then someone corrects u and u can adjust your views. No need to type it out, unless u want to be my therapist

[-] JadedBlueEyes@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago

Last I visited, Barcelona was beautiful and the people living there adored it. London isn't terrible either, although housing is extortionate due to 'investors' and landlords

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