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Want to wade into the sandy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[-] sc_griffith@awful.systems 16 points 6 days ago
[-] istewart@awful.systems 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Isn't that how the Zizians got going? Or was that uni-hemispheric partial sleep or some such thing

(or, more realistically in both cases, simply escalating quantities of amphetamines)

[-] rook@awful.systems 8 points 6 days ago

Polyphasic sleep was a thing for a while. Was that it?

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 5 days ago

e/acc-elerating doses of amphetamines

[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 4 points 5 days ago

i'm pretty sure that there's an obscure stimulant that is some kind of giga-meth that lasts for 2d or more, that'd be more suitable for them

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 3 points 5 days ago
[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 1 points 5 days ago

i looked up and it's not one but at least two, but anticholinergics will keep them more grounded

[-] bitofhope@awful.systems 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm not sleeping on the job, I'm solving problems by lucid dreaming.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 5 days ago

first read as lucid screaming

[-] rook@awful.systems 10 points 6 days ago

I suspect we all knew it already, but Bruno Dias offers some receipts: the bluesky crackdown on people suggesting that charlie kirk should rest in piss came several days before the government leaned on social media firms.

September 12th: bluesky mourns kirk: https://aftermath.site/bluesky-charlie-kirk-dead-rest-in-piss

September 15th: whitehouse nastygram : https://bsky.app/profile/chipnick.com/post/3m2k6va63222m

(also, bitter lol at “gentlemen”, because running a tech company is a mans job, don’t you know)

They complied well in advance, because it’s what they wanted to do anyway.

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 6 points 5 days ago

How do we make the experience of dating apps even worse? With AI, of course:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/oct/12/chatgpt-ed-into-bed-chatfishing-on-dating-apps

The funniest bit is the guy who needed multiple exchanges with the ocean-boiling slop machine to come up with "Hey Sarah, it was lovely to meet you".

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

“I’d already been ChatGPT-ed into bed at least once. I didn’t want it to happen again.”

According to a 2024 YouGov poll, for instance, around half of Americans aged 18-34 reported having been, like Holly, in a situationship (a term it defines as “a romantic connection that exists in a gray area, neither strictly platonic nor officially a committed relationship”).

“Over the course of a week, I realised I was relying on it quite a lot,” she says. “And I was like, you know what, that’s fine – why not outsource my love life to ChatGPT?”

She describes being on the receiving end of the kinds of techniques that Jamil uses – being drilled with questions, “like you’re answering an HR questionnaire”, then off the back of those answers “having conversations where it feels as if the other person has a tap on my phone because everything they say is so perfectly suited to me”.

Lately I've been mildly annoyed when I just want to relax and watch gaming videos on Youtube and I see recommendations for some AI critihype. Out of morbid curiosity, I decided to click on one of them and of course the "original paper" the video is based on is the stupid Anthropic blog post about how the AI blackmailed someone (after it was told to blackmail someone). I was even more annoyed to find out how popular it is, but at least it shows how the general public has such a negative opinion of AI. Some of the comments are thankfully pushing back against the video and focusing on the real harms.

I thought that by now we would have learned from the tobacco companies to never trust "research" done by a company about their own products.

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 6 days ago

An investor runs the numbers of AI capex and is not impressed

(n.b. I have no idea who this guy is or his track record (or even if he's a dude) but I think the numbers check out and the parallells to railroads in the 19th century are interesting too)

Global Crossing Is Reborn…

Now, I think AI grows. I think the use-cases grow. I think the revenue grows. I think they eventually charge more for products that I didn’t even know could exist. However, $480 billion is a LOT of revenue for guys like me who don’t even pay a monthly fee today for the product. To put this into perspective, Netflix had $39 billion in revenue in 2024 on roughly 300 million subscribers, or less than 10% of the required revenue, yet having rather fully tapped out the TAM of users who will pay a subscription for a product like this. Microsoft Office 365 got to $ 95 billion in commercial and consumer spending in 2024, and then even Microsoft ran out of people to sell the product to. $480 billion is just an astronomical number.

Of course, corporations will adopt AI as they see productivity improvements. Governments have unlimited capital—they love overpaying for stuff. Maybe you can ultimately jam $480 billion of this stuff down their throats. The problem is that $480 billion in revenue isn’t for all of the world’s future AI needs, it’s the revenue simply needed to cover the 2025 capex spend. What if they spend twice as much in 2026?? What if you need almost $1 trillion in revenue to cover the 2026 vintage of spend?? At some point, you outrun even the government’s capacity to waste money (shocking!!)

An AI Addendum

As a result, my blog post seems to have elicited a liberating realization that they weren’t alone in questioning the math—they’ve just been too shy to share their findings with their peers in the industry. I’ve elicited a gnosis, if you will. As this unveiling cascaded, and they forwarded my writings to their friends, an industry simultaneously nodded along. Personal self-doubts disappeared, and high-placed individuals reached out to share their epiphanies. “None of this makes sense!!” “We’ll never earn a return on capital!!” “We’ve been wondering the same thing as you!!”

[...]

Remember, the industry is spending over $30 billion a month (approximately $400 billion for 2025) and only receiving a bit more than a billion a month back in revenue. The mismatch is astonishing, and this ignores that in 2026, hundreds of billions of additional datacenters will get built, all needing additional revenue to justify their existence. Adding the two years together, and using the math from my prior post, you’d need approximately $1 trillion in revenue to hit break even, and many trillions more to earn an acceptable return on this spend. Remember again, that revenue is currently running at around $15 to $20 billion today.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If you called me a boomer in my mentality, I wouldn’t really disagree. I still believe that things like cash flow and return on capital matter.

Guess im part boomer as well. (Holy shit we are so fucked if this is a "boomer" thought in the stock market)

E: I had hoped this part was a bit and he would reflect more on it later.

I am not here to belittle AI, it’s the future, and I recognize that we’re just scratching the surface in terms of what it can do.

But turns out it wasn't. What if this is it? (And im talking about AI as it exists now not some magical other tech from the future), the gpt 5 release was meh, we reached the end of the S-curve (or hit our (local) maximum, if non-S curve curves are more your thing). He even admits the tech doesn't work that well in his own article.

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 6 days ago

Credit where credit is due, I found this via HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45552565

Also per https://futurism.com/future-society/ai-data-centers-finances, author is Harris “Kuppy” Kupperman, founder of the hedge fund in question.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So for my gaming needs I check reddit every now and then, and on phone it had after the comments ended a related answers section, which gave related answers 99% of them in the same sub.

Now they out some ai generated shit between that and the answers are just horrible generic slop.

Check out this answer for example: https://www.reddit.com/answers/3c67990a-d1a2-4f86-b1e4-c2f3bb54803d/

Very important context here. I was looking at the starsector subreddit. (A 2d arcade like space shooter) This is about a minecraft like building game. (Most of the advice is also useless (how to survive: 'use mods!').

[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
[-] Reach_the_man@awful.systems 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

reporter with 3 arms

Genestealer caught, praise the Emperor!

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 6 days ago

Stop this bigotry, nothing wrong with people trying to follow into the perfection of The Four Armed Rmperor. Muties are servants of His Holyness as well!

[-] sc_griffith@awful.systems 26 points 1 week ago

as one of the two non-computer scientists here, every time I check in there seems to be some load bearing open source project I've never heard of that's gone fash. "GreenBlox is refusing to kick out a contributor who said the jewish question should be on the table??" "PipeLinux official account is posting that pronouns don't exist?" open source people, are you ok?

[-] aio@awful.systems 26 points 1 week ago

CS has a huge number of people who think you can derive the solutions to social problems from first principles. It's impossible to reason with them.

[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago

it seems to me that bigger problem is that they also think that software can solve these problems

[-] bitofhope@awful.systems 25 points 1 week ago

open source people, are you ok?

No.

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[-] rook@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago

For the most part, the sudden rash of people deciding that their bigotry is now publicly acceptable is mostly around non-loadbearing things, because aggrieved entitled nerds aren’t great at working in a team (hyprland has definitely suffered from alienating people and missing out on fixes and compatibility work).

The rubygems stuff was a special case, because it was a hostile takeover of some important infrastructure by a shitty company, but most of the rest are unexciting projects that have found that giving it the old H-H is good publicity and more importantly: there are some rich folk throwing money around. Not a lot of cash in open source under normal circumstances.

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[-] rook@awful.systems 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Bluesky going to bad for that poor, downtrodden, victimised and underrepresented demographic, uh, ai slop posters?

https://bsky.app/profile/carrion.bsky.social/post/3m2kf3rottc2h

alt textA screenshot of an email sent to a bluesky user, reading

Hi there, Your Bluesky account (@carrion.bsky.social) has created a list called "Al Slop Posters" that may violate our Community Guidelines. We've temporarily hidden this list from other users because it contains one or more of these issues.

  • Harmful language such as insults or slurs
  • Unverified claims
  • Appears intended to shame or abuse users
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[-] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 21 points 1 week ago

“In the 21st century, the Antichrist is a Luddite who wants to stop all science. It’s someone like Greta or Eliezer,” [Peter Thiel] said, referring to Thunberg and Eliezer Yudkowsky

I am going outside to smoke something. I don't care what, just… something

[-] lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

In the 21st century, the Antichrist is a Luddite who wants to stop all science.

As opposed to the current administration that is destroying science by cutting the NSF's funding. An administration that Peter Thiel supports. He might want to look into that.

[-] bitofhope@awful.systems 8 points 6 days ago

Guy who looks exactly like the antichrist wearing Groucho glasses with a fake nose and moustache pointing at other people in the room and accusing them of being the antichrist.

[-] macroplastic@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"The Antichrist wants to stop all science", says the motherfucker who pays people to drop out of universities.

[-] istewart@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago

Damn, when you get kicked off the Thiel grifter pipeline, you get straight punted. Not even the callous disregard and abandonment practiced by a certain outer-borough real estate hustler, instead it's reverse apotheosis

[-] ShakingMyHead@awful.systems 9 points 6 days ago

Give it a year or so and they'll both pretend that this never happened.

[-] bitofhope@awful.systems 7 points 6 days ago

Come on, give Greta a chance, she's deserved it.

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[-] antifuchs@awful.systems 18 points 1 week ago

Oh my god, The Guardian with the sneer:

Take a look at Sam Altman. I mean, actually do it. Go to Google images, where you can find countless photos of the OpenAI boss smiling in a kind of wan genius way, the humble lost puppy of Silicon Valley. But I urge you to simply cover the bottom half of his face in any of these pictures, and you will immediately clock that Sam has the sad-psycho eyes of the lost woman’s boyfriend who the police have asked to front the missing person’s appeal. Please come home, Sheila – we’re all worried sick and we just want you back.

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[-] sinedpick@awful.systems 18 points 1 week ago

I just wanted to lob a sneer at this article fawning over Sora 2: https://spyglass.org/soras-slop-hits-different/

And again, a lot of this stuff — slop or not — is funny. Really, truly funny. Sora is scaling comedy in a way that we’ve never seen.

did this motherfucker just try to say "scaling comedy"? If you ever wondered why techbros are so unfunny, here's something to point at.

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[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 17 points 1 week ago
[-] bitofhope@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago

Is there a general term for the type of experimental or vaporware tech whose main function is creating FUD and FOMO which slows down the adoption and development of more mature conventional solutions? In the case of public transit these are collectively known as gadgetbahns. Examples from other fields include SMRs, direct air carbon capture, various embrace-extend-extinguish schemes in the software world, extraterrestrial colonies and a host of consumer IoT gadgets.

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[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago

A new psychology preprint argues that "contemporary AI is research misconduct".

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[-] gerikson@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago

a lobsters is mad that a middling Perl project gets upvotes just because it's "braincoded"

https://lobste.rs/s/bu1a84/i_brain_coded_static_image_gallery_few#c_um9usd

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[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago

shot:

chaser:

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transcription of first imagephgn posts: Nice!! The Vercel CEO recently posed for pictures with Netanyahu, so I'm looking for an alternative actually!

aziaziazi replies: I'd be glad if you can share a source of that.

ardren replies: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vercel-ceo-takes-selfie-israe...

transcription of second imagephgn's comment is flagged and removed

an additional reply by baobun with the links https://www.middleeasteye.net/trending/developers-drop-vercel-call-boycott-after-ceo-posts-selfie-netanyahu, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45416353, and https://old.reddit.com/r/nextjs/comments/1nueacb/vercel_controversy_ethics_backlash_and_a/

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