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[-] VocationConfining@piefed.social 6 points 1 hour ago

Outside of a college town.

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Uhhhh... did you all not see that Mango just told the Space Force that they need to relocate from Colorado to Alabama? You wanna talk about a blue state that's going to go dark blue, look no further.

[-] KiloGex@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago
[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

And then you're just bored

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago

New England.

[-] fireweed@lemmy.world 37 points 11 hours ago

These places exist, but they are expensive as fuuuuuuuuck

[-] lengau@midwest.social 6 points 5 hours ago

Ann Arbor here. Can confirm.

[-] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago

I live near Asheville and fucking hell you are not kidding. The price creep has spread out in a 60 mile radius and just keeps getting worse. I can't even afford to live in my hometown anymore.

[-] DrSoap@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

I heard a rumor that a tree grows in Brooklyn.

[-] axexrx@lemmy.world 111 points 14 hours ago
[-] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 13 hours ago

Republican governor still, not as solid as you'd think.

[-] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 54 points 12 hours ago

He may be a member of the Republican party but if you just look at his record as governor, you'd probably guess he's a Democrat. Pro choice, trans rights, thoroughly anti Trump, and even a lot of his tax cuts seem to prioritize relief for the working poor rather than the ~~leech~~ investor class.

Also, this is anecdotal but I've spent some time in Vermont and the conservatives there who I met were by and large reasonable, open-minded, and anti-Trump (there were a couple of exceptions but nowhere is perfect).

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago

Yeah Vermont is hippie hillbillies

[-] wolfrasin@lemmy.today 3 points 11 hours ago

Has a general prejudice against city people.

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 58 points 14 hours ago

Seattle, one hopes, is still green and bookish

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

I was going to move to Portland but I hear it's a war zone lol

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 5 points 8 hours ago

Yeah? Sounds like that's where people on the right side are needed, then.

Portland is a great city. I've been living in the UK for almost 4 years now and I've never been to a bookshop as good as Powell's, and the food there is at least twice as good as it ought to be, for what they charge.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 30 points 13 hours ago

Seattle has its own racism problem unfortunately

[-] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago

If you think Seattle's race relations are on the same level or even close to any red state then I sincerely doubt you've ever left Seattle or been to a red state.

There are racist people literally everywhere but not everywhere makes a culture out of being racist.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I lived in Texas most of my life. I wouldn't say race relations in seattle are as life threatening as they were capable of being in Texas but I would say racism is just as common.

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 11 points 13 hours ago

Thanks for letting me know. Haven't been there in a few years, sad to hear it.

[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago

Against any particular group?

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 18 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

From my observations, and from what I have been told from people of this group in seattle, mostly african americans. You'd have to hear from other marginalized groups for more info as I am not familiar with their experience. It's less of the explicitly violent and threatening racism you see in the south and more of the "you're so articulate" style of racism. Lots of pearl clutching and car door locking if you know what I mean.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 25 points 11 hours ago

Isn't this just universal in America? This sounds like liberal racism, not republicans

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 hours ago

Yes but it is particularly common in the PNW

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 5 points 10 hours ago

That's the kind I'm used to, having grown up in that area. It's shitty, but has it changed in the last ten years? My area was north Seattle, where it's always been an issue.

[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 5 points 9 hours ago

I'm a couple hours north of Seattle, and the PNW is crawling with the Proud Boy type. I was doing memory care for people with downs syndrome and dementia, and we had to get the cops involved because somebody was prowling around the facility with a rifle slung over his back during the first trump presidency.

It's the same problems it's always had, but trump has deffo turned the volume up.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

I mean that's true but that's not Seattle. I live in Kirkland which is home of the "everyone is welcome" signs in people's yards right next to the "keep the character of Kirkland alive" signs. Which are basically liberal speak for stopping affordable housing projects because they don't want black and brown people to move in.

Seattle has a mix of those kind of neighborhoods but is extremely diverse and leftist in other neighborhoods.

To your point about outside of the Seattle area it's basically like every other Blue state. The farther you go from the city the more you find the Conservatives that make their entire character be centered around being a Conservative in a Blue state. But those idiots are waaay to afraid to go into the city. They are absolute losers that target minorities when they can find a time and place to do so that no one will actually give them what they'd get in Seattle. A face full of bear spray (or worse).

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 3 points 9 hours ago

Gag me with a spoon. Sorry you had to handle that. You're right though, it's far worse everywhere.

[-] Clicheallday@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Atlanta. Just don't go past the perimeter.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 11 hours ago

There's some spots in the big nyc parks where you're surrounded by trees and can pretend you're not in a big city. That's all I've got.

Outside the city it gets surprisingly conservative sometimes. I knew someone who had family north of Albany, and their neighbor flew a confederate flag. Probably a maga flag now.

[-] neuracnu 12 points 13 hours ago

The I-5 corridor of the Pacific Northwest.

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

Idk about the Washington part but the Oregon part would be Jefferson, so not exactly progressive, until you hit the Willamette valley which I've never been to but assume it's like the central valley here in CA and full of the most annoying conservatives constantly complaining about the big cities.

[-] Jerkface@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Eugene is in the Wallamette Valley and is a historically progressive city (despite it's origins), especially for LGBTQ+ people and communities. It's home to the University of Oregon which has a fairly diverse student body and faculty. Lots of "everybody is welcome" signs in shop windows, "hate has no home here" signs in people's yards.

Hop across the river and you're in Springfield, which is another story. Kind of a Tale of Two Cities thing. Much less wealth along with all the problems that tend to follow.

[-] ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Houseless (Van Life) deep in a forest works pretty well for me

[-] frustrated@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

How....do you have internet? Van life seems so appealing but also so scary.

[-] individual@toast.ooo 13 points 14 hours ago
[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 31 points 14 hours ago

Thats the problem, on average rurally living folks tend to be more conservative.

[-] 0ops@piefed.zip 20 points 14 hours ago

I think they mean really middle of nowhere, as in there's nobody around

[-] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

So... maybe Wyoming, on the fringes of Yellowstone? Or northern Idaho? Those might be the most sparsely populated forest areas I know about.

I'd say Alaska but it's so remote that basic materials are very expensive.

The Michigan upper peninsula is pretty remote too but I don't think I could handle the winters.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

Live next to some bears, they'll keep the conservatives away.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago
[-] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 16 points 12 hours ago

Those might be nice towns but at this point I'm staying away from any MAGA states, regardless of whether they have islands of sanity in them.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago

After hurricane Helene? Good luck!

[-] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

I am legit having this dilemma now.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

The IS is huge so there’s not way you can’t find this location.

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