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Luigi shouldn't be in jail at all. He was just looking out for several million of his friends.
As completely innocent people are wont to do
He should be released and compensated for the time he spent behind bars. He is innocent.
Everyone say it with me, "Luigi Mangione is an innocent man being framed by the government because they were unable to find the real culprit."
#free Luigi
I'm really not convinced that's the case. Either way I want him to walk free. Killing the CEO was the morally right thing to do. That CEO has been part of the system that has murdered thousands/millions out of pure greed.
I agree with you in theory, but I think we should all pretend he's actually innocent
Don’t know how much pretending needs to be done, burden of proof is on the state and their evidence gathering was laughable, also not a single McDonald’s employee in the history of the universe has intentionally called the pigs, they all have drugs in their jackets and they’ll just come over the counter and fight you. Some mysterious do gooder called in a guy sitting quietly that led directly to the “shooter” and fully intact weapon ready to scoop up? Fuck outta here with that
Then again, we’re just playing Calvinball with the law now so who knows.
He is actually innocent. No need for jury nullification.
Well hold on. Being convinced of one's innocence isn't how that works. You have to be convinced that the evidence brought forward is sufficient to support the accusations. I have yet to see anything sufficiently convincing.
Taking it from the top, the only legitimate evidence you have to go on must be gathered from the scene of the crime. DNA, gunpowder, fingerprints. That sort of thing. But the only evidence is that they found an Italian in New York? Be so fucking for real. Remember, the backpack was reported to be discarded several times. Law enforcement couldn't even agree on WHERE the final backpack was sourced. And even IF the backpack did belong to Luigi, none of what was inside is proof that he stood where the shooter stood. There is no proof physically connecting him to the point in space where the shooting occurred. That's the only evidence I care about. You need to rationalize the lack of evidence connecting luigi to that physical spot in New York.
The CCTV footage is spotty and inconsistent. That's like LAPD losing a car in a high speed chase, not being able to see the license plate and catching some random guy who drives the same model car several days later.
They found an Italian in New York. That's the only thing I've been convinced of.
We need a new US monument/shrine where we can pilgrimage to and make an offering to the god of incompetence (which one is that again?) for smiling kindly upon us. It feels wrong to be relying so solely on the power of one god here without offering up any kind of gift in thanks.
like this one?
one word: jury nullification.
Just knowing about this can disqualify you from being on a jury. And lying about knowing about it can get you a jail sentence.
Possession of weed can also get you a jail sentence. What's your point?
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I don't think even that is necessary. The prosecution has been so flimsy that a simple acquittal will do.
This really seems like a scenario where that’s the ideal result. Even assuming he were guilty and the prosecution were able to prove it, he should not be convicted based on the extenuating circumstances of exploitative healthcare costing needless harm and death to millions
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If I were on the Jury hes innocent. My grandma died from a bad premium.
I doubt the defense would go that route but I'm really curious how it would turn out. Like you're allowed to use deadly force to save a life, and it could be reasonably argued that hundreds, maybe thousands of lives were saved in the aftermath of the shooting.
Realistically there's no way that can be allowed to be a legal precident, but it would be funny to try.
Jury nullification doesn't require a reason and isn't usually cited as precedent.
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Is it just me, or do all the new news pics of Luigi look less... Pro-Luigi?
Honestly the death penalty is cruel. The government should not be executing people.
Mostly he'll avoid the death penalty because he didn't do it. Trump's comments just make it a bit easier.
Where are all the "jury nullification" comments?
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Great work Trump! … eww… that felt weird.
The judge ordered the DOJ prosecutors to file a response by Oct. 3 that included “a sworn declaration from a person of suitable authority…that explains to the Court how these violations occurred, despite the Court’s April 25 Order, and what steps are being taken to ensure that no future violations occur.”
The order further required the prosecutors “to advise the Deputy Attorney General, for dissemination within the Department as appropriate, that future violations may result in sanctions, which could include personal financial penalties, contempt of court findings, or relief specific to the prosecution of this matter,” and to include “confirmation that this message has been conveyed to the Deputy Attorney General” in the sworn declaration due Oct. 3.
Garnett concluded by stating that she “will consider” the statements by DOJ employees cited in the defense letter as part of the defense’s motion to strike the death penalty, spelling out a potentially very real consequence for a Trump administration that has aggressively agitated for severe consequences for Thompson’s murder.
As a member of a jury, you absolutely have the right to refuse to indict. Just make sure you don't mention jury nullification during the jury selection process. Judges and prosecutors hate that.
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Trump's first extrajudicial killing coming?
Who am I kidding, it's not the first lol
Wouldn't even be the first this week
Mansions saved thousands of lives and more for future generations. Those poor people being denied health…
Mansions saved thousands of lives and more for future generations
Nah this thread isn't about the housing crisis
How, is united healtcare bankrupt? Did they change and approve everyone? AFAIK they are just as scummy with a different CEO.
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If anyone is to get the death penalty—which I’m against—it should be the people calling for him to get the death penalty.
I’m a fan of barely-restrained snark. That closing sentence is a great example.
Of course that's possible, but I don't think a judge or an appeals court is likely to determine that the first violation of the judge's order takes the death penalty off the table. Judges almost always bend over backwards to protect the state. If they keep talking now, that might result in some kind of mild sanctions that somehow affect reality in some slight way, possibly.
This plus the mishandling of evidence has derailed cases before. The one that comes to mind is Weather Underground. There isn't much doubt that they blew up some monuments and were planning some more. None of them were ever prosecuted because the FBI fucked up.
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You won't be able to rely on the judge, so it'll come down to jury nullification.
Expect an executive order banning that any day now (not that such a ban would make any sense or be enforceable for any reason other than "Trump don't like it.")
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