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[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 253 points 2 weeks ago

I've no difficulty understanding lads being thirsty and attracted by a lovely lady who appears to be into gaming and hey, you can even interact and try to get her attention!

Now, explain to me lads getting super invested in some lads running around a field chasing a ball. Like, literally having their lives revolve around it, their identity entirely centered on it. Now that's a complete mystery to me.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 89 points 2 weeks ago

I actually understood sports fandom for the first time because of watching streamers play video games. I was like ooooohhh, this is a very challenging skill, and I'm watching someone do it very very well, and I'm fucking hyped and I want to see more.

I never in my life had that for basketball or anything. But it made sense when I saw it for video games.

[-] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 2 weeks ago

As someone who was born into the ball chasing cult, there are three things:

  1. The social aspect. It's the one thing that brings my family together, each week, to watch the game. For away games, you have a cookout with some family friends, buy some drinks and then you watch the game. If it's in the evening, then you go out afterwards. For home games, you gather the same group, but now you're gonna meet more people in the arena, people you know because they're also in the cult. You have a drink, you have a laugh and you catch up with them. Our team is a second division side with some okay players and a great goalie, so the game is almost relegated (heh) to play second fiddle.

Oh and don't get me started on the choreos.

  1. Hometown pride: This team has been here since the 19th century and for me, going to the games or even having just a passing interest in the team is part of being from that town.

You tag lamp posts in your town with their stickers and you do the same in the surrounding smaller cities. By looking at the stickers in any given town, you can see to which city their youth gravitates, which tickles my brain in ways I can't explain.

  1. It's fun to watch: Arguably the weakest reason, but God damn, sometimes even second division footy just looks so good! When you see someone pull off a sick trick or make a clean tackle or catch, you get that sweet dopamine kick, it's insane.

I'd never beat someone because of their allegiance. Those people can kick rocks.

[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago

Fair-play to you for a thoughtful answer. Much appreciated and it certainly matches my personal experience.
As I said somewhere else : seeing my mates being all up in arms about ManU when they live in fecking Donegal was always funny to me, but I totally see the social aspect.
So much banter at the pub! If there is a thing the Irish love, it's a good banter.

Shame about the assholes who use it as an excuse to get into fights. Fecking idiots the lot of them.

[-] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for the kind words, I really have to take every excuse to practice writing in English ^^

Yeah, I definitely forgot about the banter and storylines.

I think what contributes the most to the sports ball hype is that a lot of people play sports ball themselves. And just like gamers watching streams of people playing the games they want to play or are playing, ball cultists wanna see guys do the shit they do on some backwater pitch. You know, for the "damn, I know that's difficult" or the "I could do it better" - factor.

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[-] WALLACE@feddit.uk 38 points 2 weeks ago

Most of the time it's the social aspect that is infectious. It gives you something in common with other fans that would otherwise be strangers to you

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

I never understood sports fans until walking around Key West with my Navy buddy who wore a hat for the Browns. Random dudes kept cracking jokes at and/or with him the whole day. Still ain't enough to get me into the cult, but I get the appeal now.

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Each to their own pal. I’m sure there are things you do that others find a mystery.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

That is a magnificently executed thought-terminating cliché, but if I may offer a rebuttal: nuh-uh!

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[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

Practicing masculinity, delighting in skilled human action, and bonding with peers.

Not my thing, but I get it.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

its like joining a cult, you swap your weaker identity with the stronger cult identity

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[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 80 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I've been watching streamers who I don't want to fuck and who don't really play that well, either. A lot of the time, I'm kinda too lazy to play games myself, and watching streams is a much more passive activity (if you don't participate in the chat etc.).

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[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 70 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sure horniness is a factor, but there is also the aesthetic allure of the adorable. Like I can look at cat pics for hours. Doesn't mean cats make me hot.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago

Sexual attraction and frustration, sure. Also loneliness, loss of community, loss of purpose, loss of meaning.

Maybe not every guy who watches her is like that, but some definitely are. I would especially be concerned for those who watch her consistently and donate large amounts of money to her. But I feel the same way about anyone who watches a lot of streamers and donates a lot of money (relative to their own income of course).

Parasocial relationships are a deeply concerning development.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

Parasocial relationships are a deeply concerning development.

I agree. I'm not sure how anyone who has a healthy sense of self-respect can develop this sort of relationship, tbh. Even wading into the sometimes toxic peergroup of fandoms is better, because at least you're communicating back and forth rather than just imbibing this quasi-social runoff that's not even directed towards you as a person.

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[-] Killer57@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 weeks ago

Wait, are you implying that I'm sexually attracted to Josh from Let's game it out!?

[-] boringbisexual 20 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 10 points 2 weeks ago

Ugh have you seen what he can do with some wood?! Swoon

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[-] FridaySteve@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago

Isn't that Pokimane? She's ranked in League. Cute women can do great things. If you sexualize it maybe you're a creep. Go watch her play.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 weeks ago

And non-cute women can do great things. Watch people play who entertain you, and if they're attractive, that's cool too.

[-] sus@programming.dev 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What does 'ranked' mean? Doesn't basically every player have a rank?

[-] scala@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago

Ranked, meaning above a certain rank making you one of the top tier players.

You can be ranked as a bronze sure. But no one goes around saying I'm ranked bronze. Means you're trash.

According to Google she's Emerald+ (I have no idea what this means as I never played LoL. She apparently reached immortal status which makes her the top 0.5% of players.

[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 weeks ago

Emerald+ is somewhere around the 93rd percentile. So she’s definitely good, (better than over 90% of players), but not as good as the true Diamond/master/grandmaster players.

A lot of those grandmaster-level players don’t even have their face on stream; They’ll just silently stream with a camera on their keyboard, because the people watching them want to see their inputs just as much as they want to see the the match. When it comes to streaming, there’s a golden triangle of “Looks”, “Charisma” and “Skill”. In order to be a good streamer, you need at least two. But those grandmaster players are so insanely skilled that they’re able to ignore the other two completely.

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[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 weeks ago

I understand greentexts are misogynistic by nature, but wtf is wrong with this entire fucking website that this shit is what pops up first. The entire "joke" hinges on the idea that that woman's entire worth is tied into being pretty. This is not even casual sexism, that's ranked competitive sexism.

Also going by the comments some advanced morons here seem to unironically think that is actually how it works. Per twitch's own leaked financials pokimane did not make more money than her male counterparts (who no-one ever accused of abusing their pretty privilege). But she's a woman so of course her merit has to be scrutinized and her success has to be attributed to men. I suppose the idea that she has a large female audience has never even crossed the minds of the quadruple-chinned gremlins who upvote this garbage.

[-] ikka@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 2 weeks ago

The entire “joke” hinges on the idea that that woman’s entire worth is tied into being pretty.

Uhh no, the joke is that a lot of men see women as objects and will watch her streams solely on the fact that she is a woman that they desire to bang. But yea, no matter what lens you look at it, it's patriarchy all the way down. I think watching and developing parasocial relationships with streamers, male or female, is pretty fuckin weird anyway.

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

I think you're missing some cultural context where 80% of twitch streams by women are just softcore porn. It became much more diverse and acceptable now but soft sex workers were huge on Twitch without even doing much of actual sex work.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

I think that at least 7 people didn't understand what you were trying to say.

I did. Well said. I can't see any problems with your argument.

Though, I think that maybe the green text was more about female streamers in general, not just the one that's depicted.

Whichever. Be well.

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[-] Marshezezz 33 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe they’ll learn about porn one day

[-] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago

Unless they're 15 in Texas and don't understand VPNs or proxies.

[-] Marshezezz 9 points 2 weeks ago

True but I navigated an internet with child locks out the ass when I was a kid and still could find lots of porn

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[-] Jhuskindle@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

I have no sexual attraction to the many gamers I watch stream. I love John Wolfe and his gaming is just so entertaining. I will listen in the background and watch off and on. I get to experience games I have no time or energy to play still engage in the storylines and also have some background noise. It's a win win win. It's not always about bewbs.

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[-] gtrcoi@programming.dev 25 points 2 weeks ago

Shrieking into the void is my favourite pastime, I don't even watch the stream, I pause it and concentrate on the chat. I've never once been tagged or responded to after thousands of messages, and have macro keybinds for every emote available so I can post :Kappa: and :Omegalul: as fast as possible.

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[-] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

I don't understand watching any video game streams. It just makes me want to play video games myself, why would I spoil video games by watching someone else play it?

[-] yellowbadbeast 19 points 2 weeks ago

The appeal isn't in the games themselves, it's in the personality playing them.

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[-] fading_person@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

Here in Brazil, a lot of kids watch streamers because their families can't afford any gaming devices :(

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[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 weeks ago

Anon can't fathom being interested in people if the reason is not sexual.

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[-] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

They very much know what they're doing. In an era where legit anyone can do this stuff now, they gotta stand out or just have vagina. Not all streamers are baiting hormones, but incidentally I don't get being a streamer fan such that you're even paying money to someone to play a video game. Makes about as much sense to pay someone playing sports millions of dollars but hey, that's just me. Peace

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago

I found out that some female streaming voices give me some asmr. And overall can be more pleasant to hear. And less prone to have "youtube accent". I take that as a win.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I don't watch Twitch but the youngin's in my family do.

Female streamers don't have that fake obnoxious rage yell/scream the guys do.

Last streamer I watched by choice was Skyrim Grandma BTW.

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[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Poki definitely has fans like that, but she has plenty of other fans too. You dont get to be that popular if all you have is looks

[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 14 points 2 weeks ago

Have you ever been on pornhub?

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

You think porn is just looks?

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[-] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I used to somewhat regularly watch streams before going to sleep. I'd just have the computer set to shutdown at a given time and just be in bed, watching, listening. Even crafted me own script, to activate the shutdown popup and slowly lower the volume. Better than the computer suddenly shutting down, and allowed me to easily cancel shutdown if I wanted. Once the computer turned off, put my stuff to the side and go to sleep (not sure how often I'd end up on my phone instead)

That being said, I don't have a Twitch account, never interacted. Just sometimes watched, when certain people were on, at the end of the day. Not like I was the whole day in chat or something. And lately I've lost the habit. Back then, I lived alone, and with a job,.had a regular routine. Plus, the computer was right ahead of my bed. Now? No more. I usually end up on my phone instead (and when that happens, it usually is not limit in time… it don't shutdown.)

Edit: not interested in gaming, though. I'm more of a "Just Chatting"

[-] Neps 13 points 2 weeks ago

What makes a man do anything now days lol

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

You see, the steamer depicted may not be the exact subject matter they're referring to. They might have just googled female streamers, or loaded up Twitch and looked for the first girl on camera and snapped a screen shot.

With all that being said, I understand the appeal of wanting to watch something that you think is pretty. Hell, that's the entire reason I played cyberpunk as a female character despite being very cis, and male.

For 90% of game play my gender doesn't matter. Until cutscenes where I get to watch my avatar interacting with others.

Outside of cutscenes, I'm looking first person, so what difference does it make?

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Lot of para social interaction in those twitch chats. You can see how easy it would be to go from “I’m watching this because I fancy the streamer” to something unhealthy.

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