If you cancelled your Disney+ over this, don't reactivate it just because they bring Kimmel back. They can't get away with just a slap on the wrist, they need to lose a whole hand. This needs to hurt them for more than just a week; this needs to be a permanent, scarred gash on their history otherwise we'll be right back here again next week.
Once you bend the knee to fascists, that makes you a fascist forever. Disney caving in due to the public doesn't mean they're sorry.
People need to get off the mouse's dick and start pirating their content if you can't live without it.
Yeah I’m not gonna be reactivating their shit. I am perfectly comfortable hoisting my Jolly Roger again if I want to see some Star Wars content they come out with.
FYI, you can watch late night TV programs like Kimmel for free over the air with an antenna in most cities.
I don’t actually like kimmel’s show - it’s the principle of the matter, for me.
Gotcha. See you on the high seas, matey.
These local TV stations basically just broadcast ABC content with added local news and ads. It does not matter where you watch Kimmel - the views are still aggregated at Disney and they still benefit from them.
Really surprised how many people here still had subscriptions.
I don’t shop at massive corporations if I can help it and most of the time I can find elsewhere, even if it costs me more.
I only have subscriptions for:
Oh God delete your post before the Jellyfhiles show up
To be fair I use Jellyfin myself. Plex is for friends and family.
Bought plex lifetime membership in 2015 else I'd be on Jelly I'm sure.
Absolutely, the boycott needs to keep on going since this apparently is all Iger can understand.
But sending the message that they've irrevocably lost us no matter what they do now is sending a message that they should continue to do whatever the administration says because there's no benefit to changing their path.
No, the benefit to changing their path is that it can still get much worse for them if they don't. As long as the company is run by people with anything left to lose, it can get worse.
I dunno, man. My mind goes to positive reinforcement for doing the right thing. Disney is a maaaaaaaaaassive fucking corporation with a platform that can reach many many people. If we reward them for fixing their mistakes and punish them for going against societal contracts and moral values, then perhaps they will put out content that reinforces the societal contacts and moral values which helps fight authoritarianism.
Money is what they care about, not values, but even if they are spreading the values we want just because of money then they are still spreading the values we want. We need platforms that can at least even pretend supporting our narratives in the sea of right wing propaganda.
They’ve already been a really shitty corporation. They helped put us here. Getting Kimmel back is too small of a win.
Disney is a maaaaaaaaaassive fucking corporation with a platform that can reach many many people.
Exactly why they don't need positive reinforcement, IMO. How do you reward one who already has everything?
Ethical piracy
Yeah, wait for at least a few more days before you return – which is exactly what everyone will do
Still, according to another well-placed source, while some senior staff are expressing disappointment in how it all went down, “it is in no way widespread”.
Keep cancelling
Yup. The fact that supposedly some higher-ups already weren’t on board with this decision means that consumer pressure here is more important than ever
Disney deserves it for lots of reasons anyway. Like the pillaging and privatisation of the common culture, the weaponising of intellectual property, among others.
If the far right can stand up an independent production company and make a go at it, why can’t everyone else do the same thing?
In the Internet age, it doesn’t really matter if you can’t get broadcast rights on cable or OTA… just stand up a streaming service, get contracts with Akamai and CloudFlare, lease studios in a few major cities (or even work out of garages and have remote audiences, mixed with live shows at random venues… works for youtube influencers), and operate off of a mix of subscriptions, ad placements, and traditional ads from companies who are fed up with what the US government is doing.
All these employees know how to do this stuff; it’s their jobs. Why not work for an employee held company instead and ditch the fear of reprisal/job loss?
I'm down. You hiring?
Yes, but I’m not in that industry or country. However, execs and top management types could pull it off, and the employment risk would be no greater than it already is.
Means.tv exists
Thank you for this :)
Because the left is not controlling the FCC. And ad revenue on cable TV is still a lot higher than on any internet streaming platform. Financing a show like that through streams is a lot more difficult.
Didn't Al Gore try that in the 00s? He was mocked. Like usual.
Disney needs to suffer permanently for bowing down to a lame ass Nazi like trump and his team of pedophiles and fake Christians.
"We can fix it, we can fix it! Balance the head back on the decapitated body and put a scarf around it, nobody'll notice."
Mickey Mouse is in the public domain. So is Minnie. We can make them say whatever we want.
Maybe just dub charlie kirk over it saying hateful things and spread that around
Tell me more about how those cancellations won't do anything 🤣🤣🤣
No, you see, taking action using the means you have available right now might mean inconveniencing yourself in some way! Better to just keep feeding the machine and fantasize about some Glorious Revolution that will make everything better. It's the Leftist Way.
Wouldn't it be great if after all this they give Kimmel his spot back, only for him to use his first appearance back to give a big middle finger of a monologue then quit.
If Kimmel or his protestors were authentically real about this they wouldn't go back to any of them.
I wish I had a Disney+ subscription to cancel. I’ve resorted to unfollowing and blocking ABC news in Apple News
The only reason people are on D+ is marvel garbage and Star wars.people seem to have a serious "addiction" marvel, so much so there is so many channels analyzing every detail of every episode or movie
Also people with kids.
I hope he quits
I’m sure he would have already if he didn’t have his staff to think about.
It’s hard to take a moral high ground when you end up leaving several dozen people out in the dust. Whether he genuinely cares for them (and I’m sure most people like at least some of their co-workers) or it would just be bad PR, walking away and leaving them with nothing probably won’t mesh with any message he’d be trying to send.
I meant quits ABC. He could start another show and hire everyone back. He has the means to do it, and plenty of people would watch it.
Starts another show where? Paramount's not an option for the same reasons they canned Colbert. Doubt WB would take him with the rumors that they are looking to sell out as well. He could go to an indie like Dropout, but that means a smaller scale production and no way he can hire everyone back.
The problem with media consolidation is that it limits options.
With muzzled commentary. Not gonna work.
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