769

6 in 10 Canadians say they can never trust Americans the same way again (globalnews.ca)

submitted 2 weeks ago by NightOwl@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

171 comments fedilink hide all child comments

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 129 points 2 weeks ago

I bet more in ten Americans feel the same way about Americans.

[-] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago

... It's probably about the same. A certain idiot never really dips below 38% approval rating.

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 18 points 2 weeks ago

They don't trust us, we don't trust them.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I was just wondering what the hell is wrong with 4/10 Canadians?

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Every country has "the idiot third", add a couple "IDK" and bam 40%

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 13 points 2 weeks ago

It feels like we're near or possibly over the precipice of losing our democracy

I'd just caution our friends to the north and those across the pond that when I look at people like Carney and Starmer I see people as bad or worse than Biden and then I look at who's waiting in the wings..

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

It’s been gone since Citizens United, dude.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

As an US American watching two decades of secular human sacrifice through the long tail of the gunpowder revolution has left me undernourished and starving for humanity.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 77 points 2 weeks ago

[-] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago

I never understood this stereotype (aboot vs about). I’m Canadian, lived here all my life, my family is all Canadian and all have lived here all their lives. I’ve got family all across the country, from the western coast of BC to the eastern coast of Newfoundland, from the northern stretches of Nunavut to the most southern tip of Ontario, and very rarely have I ever heard it pronounced that way. It’s actually really funny as a Canadian to look up “how to speak like a Canadian” and watch how awful most of the “tips” are. I’d recommend it.

[-] gila@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think "oot" emphasises the difference from US accents for parody reasons, and also it's just not that simple to describe that difference by substituting a single letter of the alphabet. The best way I can think of to describe it (based on experience with friends from BC) is like a combination of "oht" and "oat"

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I'm in the US and I have to support this analysis. I dated someone from Canada when I was younger, and at first he expressed the same thought as the poster above - he didn't hear the difference, so he didn't get it.

Until he came to visit me in the states. The difference between how his dad and my dad talked was so apparent, the stereotype just "clicked." To say "aboot" is definitely an exaggeration, but in all fairness, it's really hard to repeat a sound that isn't in your native dialect. There is no US-English equivalent for the "ou" sound in Canadian English "about."

It's like when a Japanese speaker uses a Z sound instead of English TH - it's not because Z is exactly what they hear when an English person says TH, but because the TH sound doesn't exist in Japanese at all. In both cases (and so many more across the world), speakers substitute non-standard sounds with ones they already know.

[-] krunklom@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

A lot of people in the us will misinterpret a rural Ontario accent as Californian because way back in the day a bunch of people from Ontario moved to California and apparently the accent kind of caught on.

There's a town called Ontario in California even.

load more comments (20 replies)

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

4 in 10 never trusted them to begin with

[-] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The one silver lining to this whole fascist takeover of the US is that I'm not an odd one out in my hatred of the USA anymore. The exceptionalism and arrogance of Americans always weirded me out and I guess this is where that all that shit lead

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 weeks ago

Personally, my trust in any specific individual is entirely based on that individual, regardless of their nationality or any other factor.... Because I'm not bigoted like that.

However, my trust in the American government and my willingness to use American brands has been permanently altered.

Given how much surveillance most major tech companies do on their users, I'm just about ready to break out the tin foil. Shit is getting wild.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

Can’t trust Americans or can’t trust the United States because those are two inherently different groups.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago

both... after electing a convicted felon and rapist to the presidency for a SECOND time, Americans cannot escape responsability in my books

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I can’t blame you. But to quote a movie … “A person is smart. But people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals…”

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

precisely, I don't hate Americans, I just can't trust them blindly

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Well, one makes the other.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Sorta… But only about 65% of us voted in the last election and of that only 50% voted for these douchebags. And of those, most of them voted that way because of a single R. So I’d guess around 75% of the people don’t agree with what is going on.

So as a concrete example, I’m an American and I’d go out of my way to help most anyone but I am not the United States.

[-] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry but the 35% who didn't vote, knowing the threat of Trump becoming president again was looming, are no different than those who voted Republican.

The whole world remember his first presidential term. And we all saw the Project 2025 playbook. The US is in a mess of its own creation.

As a Brit, I too have lost trust in Americans unless proved otherwise.

load more comments (5 replies)

load more comments (14 replies)

load more comments (7 replies)

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

As an American, the other 4 out of 10 must be idiots. GOP is on a mission to destroy everything that makes America a superpower.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

Canada has their own far-right wing. I bet around 30% are MAGA types. If you look at any election, 30% usually vote insane.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe they just never trusted America in the first place!

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 weeks ago

From Mary Poppins:

Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they're rather stupid.

[-] aeternum 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

from MIB:

A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it.

Yours is more eloquent though.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 weeks ago

After this nightmare is over, the Untied States need a complete overhaul

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 weeks ago

A complete overhaul is the prerequisite for this nightmare to be over.

load more comments (2 replies)

load more comments (8 replies)

[-] subgenius@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't blame them. I am (sadly) American, and I certainly don't trust most Americans right now.

Edit to add: and don't know that I ever will again.

[-] Joeffect@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is exactly what they want to happen... most people are not actually bad people, they want better standards of living just like you and everyone else.

Some people are terrible and racists... but most people are tired of struggling and the rich getting richer... they just want their jobs back and to do what they are used to doing... they want to be okay because everything is fucked up...

They are being lied to, you are being lied to... everyone is being lied to...

Not everyone has forgotten their humanity, the people in control who want you to believe so, are the ones that keep telling you that they have

[-] matlag@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

No matter how good a person could be, I wouldn't trust them if they are easily manipulated in believing BS. I won't hate them, but I won't trust them.

Anyone with an bit of judgement could see what Trump was. And yet he was elected. Twice!

So all these "good people" have cpntributed to elect a fascist twice already. You want me to trust they won't elect another one after him? That this is a two times mistake and Canadians can rely on the US after that?

Nope.

Maybe they were lied to about Trump. They will be lied to again by others about other fascists.

You can blame education, oligarchs propaganda, whatever. Point is: Canada can't rely on the USA, even if Trump goes away.

load more comments (2 replies)

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 19 points 2 weeks ago

They sure like taking advantage of our flags to avoid their personal responsibilities instead of properly protesting Washington’s antics for decades.

Stop being imperialist!

load more comments (4 replies)

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 15 points 2 weeks ago

That's okay, I haven't trusted America in decades, and I'm American. Canadians are wise to be mistrustful of our GOVERNMENT. Most of the people are mostly cool. It's just the MAGAs you have to hide your kids from.

load more comments (4 replies)

[-] Greenbird@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

I get it, but like, this isn't something the American people did. This has been orchestrated over decades by the wealthiest evilest mfers on earth. Definitely dont trust our government and dont trust the red-hatted folks, but do realize that if this plays out how they want, all of the regular peiple of the world are going to need to set aside that distrust. It has spread to England and Germany. Canada wont be immune.

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

The American people control who is elected at the voting booth. THEY did this.

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

You're telling me that people like Steve Bannon don't go to Europe to spread their hateful shitty rhetoric all around the world? Or that 77 million that voted for Trump have nothing to do with his election?

I know it's not "all of them", but it's a good chunk. It lowers the trust level in general, want it or not.

load more comments (5 replies)

[-] nul42@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago

4 of 10 never trusted them to begin with

[-] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

"I can’t help it. It’s who I am. It’s in my nature.” said the American to the Canadian

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This Canadian has been avoiding all US products I can and has zero plans to ever cross into the US border.

Americans are fucking stupid can't be trusted.

Canada should fortify it's southern border and get nukes.

I would even be into an American style vetting on Americans wanting into Canada. Lets check their phones. Sorry, MAGAt. You support Nazi's and Trump. Fuck off!

load more comments (3 replies)

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They've been taking advantage of us for decades, while we have 10x the resources per capita that they do, and now they want to cry and whine about unfair treatment?

Fuck them. Let them find out.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

6 in 10 Canadians had too much trust in US citizens

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

I hate that I'm lumped in with these people but I also understand.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

I've had beef with them ever since they dressed up in redface and threw a bunch of perfectly good tea into the Boston harbour. Quite rude, and they never apologized for it.

load more comments (9 replies)

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

The other 4 didn’t trust them to begin with.