Both celebrate industrialization and the exploitation of the natural world as heroic undertakings without any regard to the value of nature.

They really don't. Satisfactory, as has been explained already, is more direct, however Factorio isn't glorifying itself either if you look even half a Millimeter below the surface.

Have you ever listened to the soundtrack for instance? It is not grand or glorious, especially on Nauvis it mostly sounds slightly ominous. Also the way factories develop, intentionally or not, often resembles the way cancer spreads. And of course enemies attack you because of pollution and the plants around you die because of it. That even harms you because that means more pollution going towards enemies.

It doesn't have a Glados inspired voice constantly making fun of you and telling you to be a good corporate doggy, but it absolutely doesn't display itself as heroic in any way.

Both celebrate industrialization and the exploitation of the natural world as heroic undertakings without any regard to the value of nature.

Not really much to spoil, but just incase anyone cares: spoilers.

Haven't played Factorio, but Satisfactory is definitely NOT presented as your character being heroic or glorious. Your character is constantly berated for being too slow to meet expectations, too stupid to understand what's going on around them, and basically just constantly being treated as a tool. There is a 'save humanity' angle but it's floated as pretty obvious bullshit to try to milk a bit of motivation out of your character that's basically a slave whose interests the company doesn't give a single fuck about, by hitting you with over the top messages like "Remember all of Earth is counting on you, to include millions of kittens and/or puppies." Even when attacked by hostile wildlife, the indicator that you're taking hits doesn't even say YOU are taking hits, but makes a little popup notifying you of something akin to 'unauthorized damage to company property detected' lol.

I took it as being critical of that hyper-corporatism by depicting it as cranked up to a comical level.

They even slipped in some real world politics by unlocking the "Cyberwagon" in response to doing something stupid in game. It's a Cybertruck, which is stupid-expensive in game, has only a single inventory slot, handles like shit, has broken windows, and my favorite jab: is literally only capable of turning right. So, if you wanted a good indicator for where the devs' heads are at, there ya go.

I'd definitely recommend it.

The satire in satisfactory is both pretty on the nose while also quite subtle of you look a little deeper. Only the most cursory glance at the game would make you think it glorifies the destruction by industrial expansion.

I don't know.... saying that satisfactory celebrates industrialization is a stretch. The 'glory' of the robotic she-voice is so tongue in cheek that I don't see how anyone could miss it, like when they mention that reflecting on potential causes of death is discouraged per your contract.

Buy it, it's a fun little game. But gameplay wise it has absolutely nothing to do with management and expansion. The game's description itself is actually pretty poor. It's mostly a puzzle game, where the correct order of steps matters a lot.

i agree tbh, basically the whole sandbox resource production game genre is rife with colonial ideology

but thank you for mentioning Terra Nil, that looks neat! i need to look into that

You can do things in games which you should absolutly not do in RL..

Go for it. play these amazing games!

Its only these who cant differenciate between real and virtual who will judge you for playing it.

No, the game is really just pure, uncut heroin for engineering nerds. It’s designed to appeal to their deep desires for automation, clever designs, and optimization.

Those people don’t really care about economics, they care about creating little engines that process one type of resource into another.

Sounds like Eco may be for you. It’s definitely not the same management and production chain thing but some of that, and I ended up liking it more than I expected

You do you. If a theme of industrial growth just doesn't fit with what you can enjoy, it's no one's business to say you're wrong for that.

That being said, if the game otherwise appeals to you it might be worth checking out the demo to validate your feelings, at least regarding factorio. There just really isn't anything else out there like it, so it's worth it to be sure.

I've heard shapez2 does a decent job coming close to it, and I think it's just an infinite abstract plane of shapes and color.

Terra Nil is great. Very different vibe mechanically, but I found it a refreshing change of pace from the implicitly imperialist and explicitly industrialist tone of many games

It works great on my system, have you tried [all the things you already tried]?

lack of class consciousness amongst the proletariat 😔

Have you checked proton db for tips that work for other people? Works perfect for me with Bazzite with proton ge. Ymmv.

You mean Ho-Chi-Mindustry? In all lack of seriousness: Definitely proletarian, you are a mechanised force sweeping across a planet, wiping out the privatised military-industrial complex as you go. Lore freely invented by me.

Only true factory game for the working class.

I get the reference!

Shapez 2 is the platonic ideal of a factory building game