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Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn't meat, I'd have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of "meat" I could have for the rest of my life.

Well, maybe I'd miss bacon.

I've yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don't see much wrong with it as long as it's sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn't have anything you wouldn't expect in a normal piece of meat.

Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I'd no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I'll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Meat is meat, and growing it in a lab means cattle won't have to suffer the conditions of the average meat farm. Also means less greenhouse gasses from cattle.

Animals don't have to suffer to make a steak taste good.

[-] _spiffy@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

I would rather eat a meal that doesn't pretend to be meat and just be it's own tasty thing. I don't need a steak, but I do want a delicious savory thing.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Well it doesn't really pretend to be meat, it is meat. It just grows differently.

[-] _spiffy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

And I'm cool with that! But my kidneys won't let me enjoy red meat so let's do lab grown tuna or chicken!

[-] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago
[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

I'm all for it.

Gimme that vat grown cloned shit. I don't care. Meat is meat. If my guts recognize it as protein then that's all that matters.

If I had my druthers I'd get rid of industrial meat farming entirely. It is a major contributor to climate change. Plus all the death involved.

And while I was at it I'd end industrial farming all together. We could convert a state or 2 worth of farmland into hydroponic and feed the world. Instead we engineer scarcity and guarantee starvation for profit. It's fuckin disgusting.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago

If they’re tasty, no less unhealthy, and affordable, I’ll eat ’em. Grown muscle tissue isn’t connected to a nervous system, never mind a brain. They’re no more “animal” than tofu as far as I’m concerned.

But I can think of a couple of major likely problems:

  1. They’ll probably still require more resources (energy, water, etc.) to produce than plants, so I’d probably limit my consumption.
  2. Given the history of capitalism and the meat industry, I’d be suspicious of them still harming animals behind the curtain somewhere, somehow. The industry ought to be heavily regulated to ensure they aren’t doing that, but again, history shows that under late capitalism they probably won’t be.
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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

Completely unnecessary. Vegan chefs are wizards nowadays, and can show you how to make replacements for everything you need.

I make vsteak, and vchicken in large amounts about once per week, and use it in recipes. I can share the recipes I use if you like. I make vbacon about once per month, its a bit more labor intensive, but it tastes great.

Even apart from ethics, its 10x cheaper, and doesn't contain any of the puss, blood, and feces that come in your meats currently.

[-] Angelusz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Please share! This is on my list of things to learn

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

My spouse and I are foodies and both vegetarian. We've had several chefs put together some absolutely incredible vegan/vegetarian dishes.

One of the chefs told us that being a plant-based chef has recently become much more respected in the culinary world. He thought we were at the start of a plant-based revolution in the culinary world. Younger folks are reducing meat consumption more than any previous generation, and there are beginning to be a lot of dedicated vegetarian/vegan restaurants popping up in most medium to large cities.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 days ago

I don't like to eat meat, so I also don't like to eat things that remind me of meat.

I want plants that feel taste and smell like plants, please.

[-] Taldan@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Which is a perfectly reasonable and valid preference

I personally like the taste of meat, but would prefer eating plants. Meat replacements are perfect for me

[-] Username@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 days ago

Same. What has been really disappointing for me is that a lot of places where my only option used to be a black bean burger have now replaced that with an impossible or beyond burger. It’s great for people who are trying to cut back on meat consumption so I like that they exist but please stop replacing my black bean burgers!

[-] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I swear people would rather spend a fortune developing sci-fi meat than spend pennies on beans and peas.

[-] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Ha, just posted practically the same

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I haven't tried lab-grown meat but assuming it tastes more or less the same, I think it's much more ethical and probably better for you. The substitute meats like Beyond and Impossible are good but like all groceries that aren't staples bought in bulk, they're ridiculously expensive, at least where I live.

[-] the_q@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago

I find it so strange that people think handling meat and biting grissle is revolting, but not the fact that you're eating a dead creature that had a life. There is clearly some weird compartmentalization happening separating "meat" from living creature.

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

I think part of it is the fact that raw meat gets you sick, and people are afraid of the germs more so than the ethics of it.

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[-] Taldan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Plants are living creatures as well

If living and creature are the characteristics we have issue with, we'll be left with mostly fruits and nuts to eat. Is there a more specific description to your objection? It feels overly broad otherwise

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 12 points 3 days ago

Imitation meat is very highly processed food. I've never had lab grown meat, I'd need to know the details to judge it

I do like me a good bean burger though...I make big batches of dried beans and mash them, it's great on rice, as a dip, you can fry it, you can add whatever you want to make infinite variations

But every once in a while I like to have a good burger. Like a few times a year... Honestly, if anything, meat tastes better because I rarely eat it.

Imitation stuff just doesn't compare, maybe you could convince me it's meat, but you'll never convince me it's better than "ok". And plenty of meat is just ok... Most of it even

I'd rather eat my beans every day, and eat my steak and tuna a few times a year and enjoy every moment of it

[-] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

People will do the craziest things just to avoid eating legumes

[-] Angelusz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Accurate name

[-] JennyLaFae 8 points 3 days ago

I'd love a future where our food was about being nutritious and satisfying, while being ethically sourced and produced.

The problems we have only exist because capitalism demands ever increasing profits.

[-] folaht@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lab-grown meat can't come fast enough.
I've never seen it being sold in the supermarkets,
but I agree with what one tv show host has said it best:
"Why would anyone have more contanimation concerns of meat grown in a clean lab when this person eats meat cultivated in a dirty stall with poop on every wall?"

For imitation meat, the stuff that's cheaper is not better.
It's cheaper nonetheless.
And the only better-than-the-real-thing imitation meat out there is a more expensive hamburger.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

Im game as long as the taste is good and the price is competitive (currently it would have to be the lowest price but if my situation changes I would pay a bit extra but not twice as much. well unless my circumstances changed enough for the spleurge). Im not sure if its impossible or beyond but I have had the bk plant one and the white castle. Both were fine especially in comparison to the fast food places regular fair. For those places I could see taking the plant based on just on taste as their regular burgers sorta suck.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 days ago

Existing meat substitutes are so, so much better than they were when I first gave up meat.

Lab-growing is really hard to make work, since muscle just doesn't like to develop that way, and solves a problem that now barely exists because of the plant-based substitutes.

[-] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I'm a vegetarian. I'm just going to continue eating beans.

I think it's okay, the Impossible stuff gets pretty close to what they're imitating.

But I also think I'm not really their target audience.. like I'm okay with a veggie burger tasting like veggie. I'm not really looking for something that tastes like beef or whatever. These products like the Impossible burger aren't targeting vegetarian/vegan shoppers, maybe their niche are the meat eaters curious about trying to cut down on meat consumption which is okay.

There's definitely an opportunity to lower or even eliminate all the factory farming and animal abuse if some sort of meat replacement manages to catch on in a big way. We're not quite there yet but you never know how things will work out in the future.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

They're good for cravings, and absolutely help keep cultural foods alive even when going vegan. However, these days I'm very tofu-pilled (and tempeh-pilled), and don't really rely on imitation meat.

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Can't wait for a future, where all livestock is raised on free-range farms, and treated like pampered pets, with all their earthly needs, more than satisfied. All that would ever be required of them, is to provide the occasional tissue sample to keep the cloning stock fresh. But other than that, they would live long and happy lives, under the care of kind and gentle human attendants.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Sorry, best I can do is the sci fi dystopian option where we grow entire cows in vats, but we make it humane by just growing them without brains.

[-] ambardeshielo@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Have you tried mushroom bacon? I havent, but seems like an alternative.

[-] MrEff@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I love a good impossible burger over a normal burger for the big reason of how I feel after. Eating a normal burger as I am getting older means that I feel full in a gross way after, like I can feel the fat from the burger slowing me down, and I feel tired both physically and mentally and I sometimes feel borderline sick for an hour or so after. But with the impossible burgers I can just feel full in a healthy way. I love it. I will admit to also getting it with bacon though for that extra flavor.

I an pretty anti factory farm and love the idea of cutting out at least burgers from their industry. I also enjoy their sausages. Highly recommend them if you have not tried them. I try to cut out bulk meat eating for the environment and keep it to occasional, smaller portions, and even then it is normally chicken. Impossible meat helps scratch that itch if I want some meat but don't want to commit to blowing my personal weekly allotment of red meat.

[-] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

Imitation meats have never impressed me. They get close, but they inevitably fall just enough short of tasting and feeling like real meat that it feels to me like a wasted effort. I think I'd like them better, oddly enough, if they didn't even pretend to be meat - if they were marketed as something else entirely.

I love the concept of lab-grown meat, and it seems as if it should be without issue, since it basically is meat in all senses, except that it's grown in a vat instead of inside an animal's skin. But since I haven't had a chance to try it, I can't say.

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[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lab grown meat still requires live animals. You still need to collect stem cells to start a culture and you also need fetal bovine serum (blood plasma from baby cows) to keep the cells healthy.

We currently DO NOT have a way to culture mammalian cells without animal blood plasma. We currently DO NOT have a way of infinitely culturing mammalian biomass from a single cell sample. So lab grown meat still needs animals to be raised in captivity and slaughtered, just fewer. It's not vegan for that reason and won't be for the foreseeable future unless massive breakthroughs happen in multiple different fields.

IMO a better path to explore would just be to figure out which exact chemicals give meat their flavour and directly synthesize them from raw materials. Have something like a completely artificial bacon powder you can add to a vegan protein source and completely cut out anything to do with animals. We can make every other scent and flavour artificially, why not meat? And it's not even that hard, a science YouTuber can do it.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

I'd like to experiment more of those "not really" vegetable meats, but they're expensive. Like, the price for 300g is what I'd pay for 1kg of pork sirloin

[-] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 2 points 3 days ago

In prinxipal fine. In fact I would like to understand the resource intensiveness of the supply chain and health effects. Wonder if vegitarian is better direction for example.

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