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Donald Trump has said he will issue an executive order to mandate identification for all US elections, a move likely to be challenged in court as unconstitutional.

"Voter I.D. Must Be Part of Every Single Vote. NO EXCEPTIONS! I Will Be Doing An Executive Order To That End!!!,” the US president said on Truth Social late on Saturday.

Trump also claimed he wants to ban all voting by mail except for those who are very ill or in military service.

The US constitution grants primary authority to regulate elections to the US states, while empowering Congress to enact election laws or regulations. It gives no explicit authority to the president to regulate voting.

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[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago
[-] blattrules@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

Can he just go back to being dead?

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

that photo is from tuesday. not sure he ain't

[-] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 1 week ago

He can fuck on off. That’s up to the States.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 1 week ago

And admission to the capital is up to the don now.

[-] this@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Yea, how the fuck is he even gonna enforce that?

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

By bullying and threats, just like he enforces his unlawful interference in the policies of universities and private corporations.

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[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

I like the way the headline implies that he openly admitted that the order would be unconstitutional.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

So sick of just one fucking asshole in this country able to torment millions of us.

[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago

Cool, and he also will release the unredacted Epstein files like he promised.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago

Only if we beat it from him like a pinata.

[-] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Why not both?

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago

The use of executive orders to rule by decree is itself unconstitutional.

[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Hey Donny, that's great and all, but where are the Epstein files? Inquiring minds need to know!

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

Um, so this IS the party of "small government", yes?

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[-] Atomicbunnies@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago

EOs arnt laws.. Congress still has to make them into laws.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 23 points 1 week ago

There's the legal tactic of: do now and ask for forgiveness never. It works really well when there are no legal consequences.

[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yup, flood the courts and demand appeals whenever judges block things. The goal is to overwhelm the system in the short term. While judges and lawyers are busy setting court dates that are weeks away, the regime will carry on as if the EO is legal.

[-] Atomicbunnies@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

But it isn't even a legal tactic. EOs mean nothing. They are not laws.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 1 week ago

They obviously mean something until they are stuck down, and even then...

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

It works really well when there are no legal consequences.

There are other consequences than legal ones.

[-] Pofski@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

none so far i would say.

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 week ago

You don't have to have proof of identity to vote in the US?

In states that do not require an ID, you still need to present a document with your name. It is then compared with the voter registration database. The argument against requiring an ID is that ID's aren't free in the US, which can cause a financial hurdle for many.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

Sounds like a solution would be some sort of national ID card provided for free?

[-] xycu@programming.dev 23 points 1 week ago

Republicans and conservatives, historically, have been the biggest opponents of a national ID because they don't want the federal government tracking them or asserting any control over anything.

Until trump, anyway...

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

That's rich

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

Yes, but that would actually be a good thing so it's never happened.

[-] Uruanna@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

And there's additional hurdles for more targeted populations, like access to the place that gives you the ID, and the capacity to prove your ID to that place with specific documents that may ormay not exist. It's on purpose.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Heck, personal ID is not free in my country, either (I paid 43€ for a renewal last week), but it is mandatory, so everyone has it. Americans could do it even cheaper if they wanted.

With so low levels of identity proof in the US, don't complain about identity theft. Here, you simply can't open a bank account with just an SSN drawn from the darknet and a self-printed electricity bill. Having a proper ID has many uses, way beyond identifying for your right to vote.

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

What sort of documents could you provide?

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

I Will Be Doing An Executive Order

President of the United States.

Trump is way too fucking lazy to press the shift key before every word. I just do not believe that he writes his own tweets. I'd like to see just one video of him visibly typing out a tweet that is then published. I'd bet that if you cross-referenced when his tweets are posted with his golf schedule, you'd find that at least some of them are written by somebody else.

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Can we 100% confirmed that Donny actually made this statement and that it wasn’t a body double? And also RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

This was the plan for the "Real ID" all along

[-] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 9 points 1 week ago

Fucking hell I hate to even say this, but this might be the first thing he has ever done that I might agree with. But hear me out before you crucify me.

There isn't rampant voter fraud near to the level MAGA claims. They imply it's 50% fraudulent. It's really like 1% or less, and most of that gets caught anyway already.

I do think it is important to validate that the person casting the vote is registered and is the correct person casting the vote. But I would balance that requirement with common sense and I'd make getting any/all valid IDs easy and free (fully tax funded). From DL to Real ID to Military or whatever else. All free. All simple to get. All accessible to do. And I'd also make all elections a national holiday and expand mail in and online voting and early voting. Give people as much margin to get their vote in as possible.

Elections do need security, hell, I'm still not entirely convinced that Elon didn't do SOMETHING nefarious in this last one. He at very least was paying people which is illegal. But we need better encryptions and processes and forms of certifying that the ballots cast were indeed the correct intended vote and ways to go back and validate your own vote in a secure way. Make a portal where you can log in like your bank and see your vote history or something.

While we're at it. Abolish the damn college. Just make it all RCV and be done with all this shit with gerrymandering and arguing over the "least worst' candidate every cycle.

[-] smayonak@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Much less than 1%. Voter Fraud is so rare that it has no impact on elections. However the Republicans have been trying to pass a federal voter ID law (the SAVE act) which creates substantial barriers for married women who changed their last name from voting. The additional barriers will destroy democracy.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/why-voting-rights-groups-warn-the-save-act-may-make-it-harder-for-married-women-to-vote

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

He does care fuck if it is "legal" or "constitutional". Those terms do no longer exist as criteria.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

Also there will be underwear inspections and all underwear must now be worn on the outside of pants.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago

I'm very ill.

[-] Master@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Already have to do this in a lot of states. Have to show my drivers license and compare my signature in Alabama before I can vote.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago

Yes, that's because the Constitution says it's up to the states to manage their elections. It is not up to Congress, and it sure as shit is not a power of the President.

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I can't see California ever enforcing this

[-] omzeyad25@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

And admission to the capital is up to the don now.

[-] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago

wait.. so you guys are worried about having to identify yourself to vote?

meanwhile you are registered multiple times a day through license plate identification, CCTV cameras, facial recognition, and not to mention your google/Apple device usage and browser and other digital fingerprinting

[-] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

In normal democratic countries "VoterID" is either National ID card or Passport. In "new" democratic countries (like mine) we sign the voter list (not the ballot), signature is compared visualy with signature on the ID card or Passport. Also picture from the ID card is printed on voter list so visual comparioson is made. Since last elections we are checked with fingerprint reader, again compared with fingerprint deposited when ID card or Passport was issued. Never had any problems or delays during voting. I bet US invented all that technology. But despite so many controls, there are many ways to commit voter fraud, especially in areas where voters are poor.

[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Ever since I can remember, I've already had to sign the voter list in the US. No photo though, just a signature comparison. Also, the amount of voter fraud in the US is extremely low. Like usually less than 0.0001%.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Soviet Anthem Intensifies

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Give no explicit authority to the executive branch, but that isn’t gonna matter to Trump nor the Supreme Court

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