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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

When I was first learning these symbols in kindergarten, I understood how to use them, but I couldn't read them right. If I saw 2 < 3 and had to say what it was out loud, I'd say "3 is greater than 2." I learned the proper way quickly though with some help from my teach though. No idea why that memory stuck with me.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Do they teach this in Primary School now? I’d have thought it was still addition, subtraction, timetables, long division etc; I first encountered these symbols learning BASIC at home.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 21 points 2 days ago

big > small
as in the symbol is big and open on one side and small and closed on the other. It could not possibly be more literal than that.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

That was not how it was taught to my developing elementary brain.

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago

Sure, but if you regularly use it, wouldn't you think more about the symbol?

And wouldn't it make more sense to an adult brain to see one side wider and one side smaller and continue the line in order to understand which size is bigger?

[-] Eq0@literature.cafe 61 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Wait… was I the only one that got taught: small number on the small side, big number on the big side?

No cute little metaphor, just deal with the bleakness of the world, kids!

[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 days ago

This is like when I found out everybody else got a cute little song to memorize the quadratic equation.

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 points 2 days ago

In Germany, we have this. At least I think that quadratic formula means the ABC Formel? If not, I'm sure dorfuchs has a video for it too.

My favorite is the one for the bionische Formeln.

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[-] Eq0@literature.cafe 8 points 3 days ago
[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

To the tune of "Pop Goes the Weasel"

X equals the opposite of B Plus or minus square root B squared minus 4 A C All over 2 A!

[-] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

I imagine that is how the symbol came to be used. I doubt they imagined crocodiles.

[-] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

When this symbol was formalized crocodiles were a much more persistent and immediate threat. They thought about them constantly.

[-] wiccan2@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

The version I was taught starts with the equals sign. There is nothing simpler to depict the concept of equality than two parallel lines of the same length. Now pinch one side to spoil the equalness, the pinched side points to the smaller number in the unequal pair.

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[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

When I taught math to young students I used alligators.......Muh haa/0/

****I'm leaving the random characters that have been added to my evil laugh. They were added by Zip the orange 3 month old terror kitten

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago
[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago
[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Aw, she's super sweet! Your printer did a great job😉

[-] Decq@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

I really don't get why you would need a mnemonic for a symbol that itself already is a mnemonic? How could it ever be confusing that big side is bigger than small side?

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[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

How childish!

It's obviously Pac-Man.

[-] WilloftheWest@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

I saw the angles and assumed this was a joke about Dirac notation, which I'm still convinced is a massive joke to get mathematical physicists seriously talking about bras and ket in the staff room.

[-] halvar@lemy.lol 22 points 3 days ago

I remember learning about these in first grade and the explanation we got was "the beak of the little chick is pointing towards the bigger number" and I can't stress how much more confusing an explaination that is compared to the crocodile. Picture the following scene:

 O>
\0/
/ \

Yes that's a bird shut up. Observe the beak. Where is it pointing in this case? That's right, it's pointing the wrong way. Why did they choose this stupid explaination? Who knooooows

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What in the fuck kind of backwards ass logic is that?! CROCO GO NOM NOM ON BIGGY NUMBER BECAUSE HE HUNGY! What is wrong with your teacher, my god

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 15 points 3 days ago

Pretty sure they were going for this, not a baby bird just standing there:

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[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago

My teacher said “Pac-Man wants to eat the number that gives him the highest score” and that sooo stuck with me

[-] Gustephan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I just use both with a footnote that reads "one of these symbols always lies, one tells the truth. Determining which is which left as an exercise for the reader"

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

I know someone who did their entire thesis purposely without using effect/affect, because they didn't know the difference. Instead used "impact" and other similar words.

[-] mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Affect is an action and effect just exists is how I always remembered it.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

that's a lot better than my method of remembering that effect is not a verb

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[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Why not just remember that the bigger side of the symbol points to the bigger number?

[-] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

But the pointy end should be pointing. This phrasing could get confusing.

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Sounds like a less fun version of the same rule.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

rule

Calling that a rule is weird. Like do you have a rule which side of the knife is used to cut? Which part of the toothbrush goes in your mouth? You don't? Right, cause it's entirely obvious.

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[-] nightlily@leminal.space 8 points 3 days ago

I used to even draw in the teeth.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

I think I was fifteen when my maths teacher took me aside and told me my less-than symbol didn't need a plover bird.

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

I still think "Pervert Naruto" for PV=nRT

[-] slysmy@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

in other words:

[-] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

I feel this deeply as a 30 year old that has to repeat in my head "Never Eat Soggy Waffles" every time I use a cardinal direction

[-] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

This never made sense. The larger animal would eat the smaller one.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

The crocodile wants to eat the larger child

[-] artifex@piefed.social 8 points 3 days ago

I learned "L" for Less than

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[-] Alenalda@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I have to read random passwords to people, nobody knows which is the greater (>) and less (<) than symbol.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

Because they are all just knowing it points to the bigger number. >100 and 100< are interchangeable.

[-] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

uhh... doesn't it point to the smaller number?

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[-] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

When I encounter this, I have to imagine a context as I would read it. eg. X > Y as X is greater than Y. Because <> are just angle brackets to me.

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