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[-] prole 206 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Look, the Epstein shit is important, and it's important that we keep it in the conversation, but this isn't a fucking distraction. Do people seriously not understand how dire this is? This isn't a fucking joke. We are deep into full-on fascism now.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 53 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I work at Microsoft and they just did massive layoffs all of this year. Last round I was layed off. 9000 of us in the last round.

I say this, because, I think people might associate tech jobs and education with being more liberal and pro immigrantion. This is not the case at all. The liberals are being offered fascism as a means to deal with their unemployment and will accept it with open arms as their material conditions decline. Most people I know from my job would absolutely join ICE for the paycheck as the tech sector lays off more and more people.

I'm sure we are seeing this in other industries as well. But just sharing for mine. ICE is going to look like an attractive job for a lot "middle class" Americans to be able to make rent. None of them are having class conflict conversations either. These people have next to no idea of what is going on.

We will not just get the hogs joining ICE. You're gonna see a lot of liberals start to justify it as their livelihood starts to get connected to it too. This is how fascism works.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 29 points 6 days ago

I watched a documentary a couple days ago about a school counselor who got laid off and needed to join ICE to make his monthly nut.

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[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 17 points 6 days ago

That's a really good point. I remember at the most recent DEFCON, Cory Doctorow got a heckton of cheers when he was talking about tech workers waking up to the fact that they were workers, and are beginning to push towards unionising. In the comments, people were glad to hear the cheers, seeing it as evidence of the shifting tide that Doctorow spoke of.

However, as you highlight, this mass squeezing of the middle class will also send a significant chunk of people over to Fascism. We definitely shouldn't become complacent

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[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 36 points 6 days ago

As someone watching from out side, no shit. The us has crossed the Rubicon a while ago, no longer a nation based on laws, no longer a place that people have rights, no longer a place with free elections (well this one has been around for a bit with the stupid 2 party system) and no longer a place other nations want to do business with.

The most infuriating part of this has been watching americans (and more of the rest of the world then I would have liked) act like this is all potentially bad and then normalizing just flat out dystopian shit. Like shit this is not even the first place troops have been deployed to put down political "wrong speak".

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[-] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago

thanks man, finally someone else saying it!

We’ve been chasing the dragon since 2016: This is gonna bring him down, that is gonna bring him down, oh no but wait, this is definitely going to finish him off. How is the Epstein story ever going to harm him in any way?

In reality those things are the distractions from the real shit that’s been happening. Now that he’s accelerating his fascist actions in plain sight, how dare anyone say it’s just a distraction? This narrative only works in his favour, jfc.

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[-] Redditsux@lemmy.world 131 points 6 days ago

Martial law is next! I tell ya.

[-] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 100 points 6 days ago

This is damn near the same thing, without all the fancy steps.

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 63 points 6 days ago

Those "fancy steps" are the only things that would make this legal. Without them, all he's doing is violating the Constitution. DC presents a unique loophole for this. Anywhere else, and he's breaking the law.

[-] tane69@lemmy.world 60 points 6 days ago

Surely this time he’s done for.

Hate to break it to you man but the law does not matter. It really never has for the rich and powerful but he has laid it all bare

[-] SnotFlickerman 29 points 6 days ago

I've said time and time again we let the entire Bush admin off the hook for war crimes... Trump hasn't even hit war crimes levels yet. Did anyone think we were ever going to hold him to account when we wouldn't even do anything about that?

[-] bigfondue@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

I think it started sooner, with Nixon being pardoned and all the senior Reagan White House officials getting away with Iran-Contra

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[-] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

He’s breaking the law all over the US, when you’re rich… they let you. This is no different. Let’s see some consequences somewhere.

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[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 51 points 6 days ago

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago

but but but guys, Kamala Harris had a weird laugh….

/s

[-] jcb2016@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

And the emails.. Bondi will make sure it gets done!

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 89 points 6 days ago

FYI - He tried this in Portland last time:

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland

Bonus: The guy in charge of it, Chad Wolf (not making that up) had been illegally appointed and had no authority:

https://www.theusconstitution.org/litigation/dont-shoot-portland-v-wolf/

[-] Montagge@lemmy.zip 93 points 6 days ago

How quickly people forgot that unmarked vans with unmarked personnel were kidnapping people off the streets of Portland during BLM

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago

Getting the military in place for the coup.

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[-] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 44 points 6 days ago

He's getting everything prepared for when he denies the next election. He doesn't want to lose power to a pesky thing called democracy.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's way more than that. We're only 7 months in. This is complete power grab, complete takeover. Democracy will only barely matter by 2026. And there will be no loss to deny.

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[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 45 points 6 days ago

"Trump floats the idea of starting a civil war." FTFY.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 66 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Helicopters have been flying low over Houston every couple hours all through the day for the last week.

I hope y'all liked our hard work in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Yemen, cause it's coming home

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[-] lack@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

He's like the brightest lighthouse in the galaxy blasting out the message "I AM TOTALLY GUILTY" with this diversion shit

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago

WTF is in those files???

[-] MechanicalJester@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

Short answer: good luck with that. Deployable up to 100K. Total population you're trying to control is 15 million. So 1 per 150 citizens.

Except it obviously would quickly need to include the Bay Area, St Louis, Indianapolis, Portland, Seattle etc

[-] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

Stay the fuck outta Portland, you Nazi bastards 😠

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 5 days ago

They want to provoke a violent response to scare the shitlibs into supporting martial law and a Reichstag Fire type event.

The 100k combat troops don't mean anything compared to a million cops and the reality that only a very, very small percentage of Americans are organized enough to actually put up resistance.

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[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 54 points 6 days ago
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[-] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 48 points 6 days ago

More diversion from the Epstein files?

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago

I'm not sure taking over the government and making himself a king with a personal army who cannot ever be removed from power no matter how obscene his abuses are is a diversion.

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[-] Brutticus@midwest.social 12 points 5 days ago

ACAB includes the troops. Fuck em

[-] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago

The Epstein files are going to fuck him over. There's probably pics of his naked fat ass and his Fat Bastard baby dick.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

Who are you kidding. Those files will never see the light of day. And if the unredacted files ever did - his cult followers would believe any bullshit Trunp said about how it’s all lies and fabrication by Joe Biden or whatever. Nah Trunps never leaving the White House. It’s as plain as day.

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[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm pre-laughing at those who will be pitching US tourism to Canadians.

[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 days ago

The most free country on the planet is now the most fascist.

Way to go America, yer fuckin’ winning.

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