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This is becoming more common in my town. I just either feel like an ass saying I dont have cash, or lying, but I also can't be giving out 20's to everyone who asks.

I feel bad for most of them but at the same time I get anxiety walking down the sidewalk and seeing someone up ahead that I know is going to ask me for money. Its not like you can say "oh no, I donate to services that help the needy" because that person isn't necessarily being helped by that. And ignoring completely feels so mean, plus I tried that one time and the person was screaming at me as i walked away that I ignored them.

I also dont want my city to round them up and send them to prison camps, something they are planning and that I know a lot of people would vote for just to "get rid of them" but im not supporting that at all.

Its tough.

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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

My brother has told me many times before that giving them money ain't gonna do nothing because that's money that they can use for drugs if they're addicted. He says buying them food is better.

As messed up as it is, kinda gotta agree, especially since zi don't know who's an addict and who's not.

I normally ignore them because I don't keep physical cash on me unless I'm making an as discrete as possible purchase. It may sound kinda cruel, but I find it easy for me to just ignore them and pretend they don't exist. Don't know whether that's more of a personality thing with me or because of my autism already making me less likely to wanna deal with people in general.

[-] CXORA@aussie.zone 11 points 6 hours ago

I tell them the truth, I don't have any cash on me.

On the rare ocassion i do, I'll give $10 - $20. Because I've been on the position where $20 is the difference between eating today or not, and it's terrifying.

[-] frozenpopsicle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 hours ago

I give to the obviously mentally impaired ones the most. The last person I gave a 20 to looked straight through me as he talked to god. There is only so much you can do. I know it sucks.

[-] MadBabs@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

I made it a personal rule that if I have a $5, it goes to whoever asks. I don't seek people out, but if it's asked, and I have that five dollar bill with me, it's theirs.

[-] kerrigan778 72 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Ignore and donate to a local shelter and/or kitchen. Do not encourage street harassment. I know it sucks and I know a lot of people are hurting. But community aid should not be divided based on who is the loudest, most aggressive, or most "convincingly in need" based on appearance. (If someone is hungry or thirsty by all means hook up the people in need in your community, never hurts to share food and water)

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

This isn’t the best approach necessarily, but it’s a feel-good thing: If they’re intercepting me as I go to a store, I refuse to give money, but offer to buy them something to eat inside (or whatever else they need). I hold to those promises and they’re generally grateful.

I also sometimes give money if someone isn’t actively accosting about it. It’s down to what I can afford, too.

[-] Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social 24 points 13 hours ago

My wife & I were going into a restaurant one afternoon, and there was a man in a wheelchair with no legs below the knee sitting next door at the exit to Walmart. His sign said that he was a homeless vet. As we started in, I told my wife to hold on, and I ran over and gave him $20. When I got back, my wife said, "Did you just give that guy 20 bucks?" I said, "Yep, why?" She said, "You know he's just going to spend it on alcohol." I said, "I hope so, the guy ain't got no legs, let him have a good drink!"

[-] diptchip@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

I’d be much more likely to give money to someone trying to sell something or offering a service. They don’t even try anymore. Miss the old gas can routine.

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

I once had a gas can man try to sell me the same story twice in the parking lot of my job weeks apart from one another. "Yeah I came up with my wife and kids and we ran out of gas..."

I didn't fall for it the first time and the second time was pure enjoyment as he obviously didnt recognize me, so I got to witness his song and dance with "secret insider knowledge."

[-] PagPag@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago

I ask them to come inside the store and I’ll buy them some food.

If they decline, oh well. If they agree, I happily pay for some food for them.

Some of these encounters have broke my heart, others have just reiterated what most people assume when it comes to these things.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 12 hours ago

I don't carry cash, so that's an easy answer.

[-] JakenVeina@midwest.social 13 points 13 hours ago

If I have cash, I'll give it. I don't give a shit whether they're being honest or not. My generosity is not tempered by the dishonesty of others.

[-] kerrigan778 13 points 13 hours ago

Okay, but the money you gave could have been used to provide community kitchen and shelters. Should community aid be given in cash based on peoples willingness to look convincingly in need? Should assertive street harassment be the default choice to get aid? Everytime you're tempted to give cash, give that much to a local shelter or kitchen.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 hours ago

Brother not everyone likes the shelter. A lot of homeless people refuse to go because they are dangerous and if you're trying to quit drugs, well now you're surrounded by druggies.

You have good intentions, but assistance can't be locked behind institutional demands. If they wanted to go to the shelter, they would be at the shelter. If they wanted to receive conditional help, they'd be at the shelter.

They are asking you for help, just give it if you can.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

Don't shame people for their choice of giving methods. Shame people who give nothing.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago

when community aid doesn't actually aid the community - we have lots of shelters with rules against pets, couples, drinking etc., - religious orgs primarily who want to force their values on the victims.

Everytime you’re tempted to give cash, give that much to a local shelter or kitchen.

I disagree, there's something to be said for helping individuals when you can. And there are lots of individuals who will not seek institutional aid for a number of valid reasons.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 8 hours ago

alot of them lie to get money for drugs, they lie "oh i had a broken leg, or arm" but they are walking perfectly normally. i generally have to ignore them, also one time they came to a residential area once asking for some strange things.

[-] xpey@piefed.social 21 points 16 hours ago

I just apologize and move on, never had a bad experience. I do feel bad afterwards, but I'm from LATAM and it's basically a 50/50 wether you get ripped off or not, so I'm not risking it.

[-] Otherbarry@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 67 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

In the northeastern U.S. I've mostly learned to acknowledge them, don't give anything, and move on with my life.

Not sure if it's bad luck or what, but nearly every time I've tried to be nice and offer them something it always backfires. I'll be passing by with some food and they'll ask me for some, I give them some and then they tell me it wasn't enough and to give them all the food I was carrying. Like WTF?

Another time I actually had some change on me so I gave him some and he said it wasn't enough money and started following me, wanted me to go to an ATM so I can take out more money for him. I was forced to tell him to stop following me or I'd have to call the cops.

I have even more stories like that.. going through those motions repeatedly it feels like the homeless have taught me not to give to the homeless. But hopefully your experiences have better outcomes.

[-] binarytobis@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Dude, same happened to me. One guy threw the box of food he asked me to give him in a bush because he didn’t like Italian. Another told me to go to an atm for him. The last time I gave someone money they had me absolutely convinced that they needed $10 for the bus ride home. Before I even put my wallet away he was saying the same thing to the next guy.

Decided to stop that and donate to charity instead, even though money was tight. After my $20 donation they flooded my mailbox asking for more donations. They even sent me $5 with the message “This $5 could save a life!” So sick of being made into a fool for wanting to help.

If I were convinced a person truly needed help I could provide, I would straight up be willing to give them at least $1000. I simply don’t trust the pleas any more. Have to keep it limited to chance encounters with everyday people.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 42 points 19 hours ago

I was drunk and in a good mood and a guy asked for $10 to take the bus or something, so I handed him a $20 and said I hope he had a nice evening. Should have been the end of it, right? Nope. "Oh man, if you have $20 more the Lord will bless you and I can get a bus pass and eat. My sister is dying and I need to visit her often and I'm on the streets right now." Stuff like that for like 3 blocks of following me.

Bro... I. Don't. Believe. You. Like, literally, it's probably all bullshit and I knew the first $20 was going to buy booze or drugs. Don't fucking try to shake me down for more.

[-] tyrant@lemmy.world 27 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I say "sorry not today" or something similar but also offer food if I have it. I've usually got a Clif bar or something. Also nice to have emergency blankets for winter hand outs.

Edit: just remember they are people too. Regardless of their current situation. Some might have mental health issues, others maybe substance abuse problems, some might just be down on their luck and unable to find work. Treat them with the respect you would want if you were in their shoes.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 11 points 15 hours ago

This sounds closest. Acknowledge. Be friendly. Offer food water. Make eye contact, however fleeting. Assess crisis. Keep moving. This is Manhattan and depending on the neighborhood and street they might be the umpteenth to ask. They know this. I still acknowledge and make eye contact because suddenly being invisible is the worst part psychologically.

Bonus: if it’s your neighborhood, odds are you will see these people again. You might want to learn their names. They won’t keep asking you if they recognize you and know you don’t have it.

[-] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Depends on if they are playing me out. I've hung out and drank or smoked weed with homeless people if they were authentic. If not they can fuck off and their evil can bring them suffering.

The same goes with anyone else, mainstream or street.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 42 points 19 hours ago

I wonder if the people saying they give money every time live in major cities (and walk often).

If I gave a quarter to everyone who asked me for change, I'd be out over $200 per year. Double that if they're still going to ask me on my way back (which is likely).

Some of them would also be rolling their eyes at a quarter. Some panhandlers can even become aggressive if they don't like what they get.

I'm not going to say that these people are going to waste the money on drugs, though some will (and I don't care what they do with the money, really). But I'd rather...

  • Donate that money to food banks and other causes
  • Not carry around unnecessary change
  • Not risk pulling out my wallet in the city (in case I forget to keep the change handy)
  • And NOT turn city sidewalks into tolled walkways for people who can't afford a car

As for what I do? I do the hand thing and apologize. I make eye contact (or at least look their way). If they ask again, I tell them I don't have anything. There's no reason to feel shame for not giving. Like someone else said, it's a numbers game.

If there are regulars and people who are genuinely down on their luck, then (if you have the time and willingness), you could talk to them, and maybe offer to buy them food or something.

Of course, there's always the chance that they'll bring the food back and ask for a refund. But hey, they would've used your $20 the same way.

[-] Jg1@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

I live in Los Angeles, I see homeless people regularly and give regularly. When I don't have much money I don't give much, when I have more I give more. I actually specifically got the ATM and make sure to carry $5 and $20 bills specifically for this. I am lucky enough that I can afford to give what I do but I regularly give people$20.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

Plus there’s the problem of literally giving them a quarter. I used to empty my pockets out for the first person I saw on my way out of work. But too often they would just throw change on the ground and get mad.

I get that they hoped for more but it is something and is what I hsd

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[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Yeah. Unfortunately it feels like the homeless situation further encourages mass car culture because youre a lot safer in there than walking at night especially if youre small or a woman.

[-] Sl00k@programming.dev 18 points 17 hours ago

I wonder if the people saying they give money every time live in major cities (and walk often).

Honestly there's panhandlers then there's homeless. I get asked for money surprisingly few amounts of times from homeless and I usually throw them $5-10 every time if I have cash.

Frequent panhandlers I will never give money to. If you're around the area a lot it's pretty easy to know the difference.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago

That's a great point. There are also a lot of career panhandlers where I live. Like, "getting picked up in fancy SUVs" career panhandlers.

I hope they're just scam artists and not victims of human trafficking.

Which raises another point -- sometimes giving money to people in the streets is supporting human trafficking.

You have to really know who your money is going to. And 9 times out of 10, I'd wager the money is better off being donated to services that support people in need than it is going into a takeout coffee cup at the end of a stretched out arm.

But food is still probably a great help no matter what, even if it is for a victim of human trafficking. Everyone needs to eat.

[-] cRazi_man@europe.pub 22 points 17 hours ago

Homeless people endure constant hardship, abuse and dehumanising behaviour. I might not give money, but I'm careful to avoid dehumanising them.

  1. You can carry around smaller denominations if you do want to give something.

  2. If they're close to a convenience store then I offer to go in and buy something for them (tell them a budget and ask about and preferences or restrictions).

  3. If I'm not going to give anything, I still make eye contact, try to have a sympathetic smile on my face and say something like "I'm sorry, do take care". I don't know if this is dumb or patronising, but I'm trying to avoid being dehumanising as the constant response they get is for people to avoid eye contact, walk around with a wide gap or ignore completely. I want to try to at least acknowledge and respond.

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago

Right, I feel like a total ass ignoring them because its just mean. But I also feel like if youre too friendly they think you're an easy person to rob as well...and im not a scary looking person. If i was it would help

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 hours ago

Homeless people are much more likey to be victims of violence than they are to perpetrate it.

Homeless people are regular people, like you, who sleep on the street. Would YOU rob someone who is being nice to you?

Dorn dehumanize people just because they don't look, talk or smell like you. They have feelings and a working brain, just like you.

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[-] ashenone@lemmy.ml 38 points 20 hours ago

When I was driving through an area frequently that had a large amount of homeless I'd pack a few extra sandwiches, granola bars and bottles of water to give out. I also kept gallon bags and a large bag of dog food for those who had dogs. I never once had someone turn down food and ask for money instead.

[-] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 32 points 19 hours ago

Guess it depends on your city. In my city I have literally seen a homeless person throw food back at the person who gave it to them and scream “I ASKED FOR A DOLLAR, BITCH!”

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 21 points 19 hours ago

If possible, do not give food unless it is sealed. I prefer to give out canned food with a pull tab or sealed items like protein bars and granola bars. Many unhoused people throw away open items like sandwiches given to them by random people for their own safety, and I can't blame them

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[-] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago

i actually give to those who do not ask

like a lady in the subway, visibly mentally challenged with all her belongings, drawing and ~~striking~~ words in her notepad. she made me sad, so i gave her a bill when leaving the train. her face became lightened when she saw it, she said thank you and I left

sometimes I leave at where they sleep like under pillow next to head

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

This is a great idea. Some of us are wary of being ripped off by a scammer and there are some of those. But those few scammers will likely be the most aggressive. Someone just existing in need will NOT be a scammer. This seems like a great way to be sure you’re actually helping someone who needs it

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

I give whatever change I have, but when that's gone:

"Sorry. I get paid electronically and pay for damn near everything electronically, the only time I touch cash I have to pay extra to get it."

now I have been hit with the: can you venmo me five?

[-] protist@mander.xyz 24 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

My standard is to say something like "I don't have any cash to share, good luck to you though." I work in homeless services and know a ton of folks who survive on panhandling. In my area, people have no problem finding food, there are a ton of social service orgs and churches that provide food daily.

The following is not a judgment and is a generalization that is far from universal. This is just a description of what I commonly observe. The unfortunate reality is that much of the money people get from panhandling goes to purchasing cigarettes, alcohol, meth, K2, crack, and/or fentanyl. For this reason I avoid giving people money directly.

You don't need to explain yourself to anyone, and if you feel bad for not giving someone money because you feel the inequality, consider donating your time or money to organizations in your area that are doing the work to help people gain employment or housing, meet their basic needs, or treat their physical or mental health needs.

[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 6 points 14 hours ago

I give them negative five dollar bills so they actually owe me moneys. Gotta love UOIs!

[-] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 24 points 19 hours ago

Panhandling is a numbers game - both parties know this and it’s okay to say no.

If I were to go back to walking into work and dealing with it daily then I’d have my headphones on and would be ignoring.

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