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[-] frezik 265 points 11 months ago

Nintendo's distain for its own fanbase continues to baffle the world.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 108 points 11 months ago

🙅‍♂️ Free publicity

💁‍♂️ Alienate the fans

[-] warm@kbin.earth 75 points 11 months ago

They literally couldn't care less, people will buy anything with Pokemon or Mario slapped on it anyway.

But still, fuck you Nintendo.

[-] Iteria@sh.itjust.works 66 points 11 months ago

I'm doing my part by never exposing my kid to Nintendo and capturing all my kid's friends before they leave tablet gaming and convincing their parents to look into PC gaming and steam decks. It's an easy sell to their parents once I show steam's parental controls and how every game isn't full price all the time. Plus remote play makes the initial cost low if they have a computer. Their kid can just play my kid's games. I've already converted 6 kids. My kid just started first grade, so I expect to convert a lot more.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 11 months ago

I'm doing my part by (..) capturing all my kid's friends before they leave. (..) I've already converted 6 kids (..) I expect to convert a lot more

The cult commends you!

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

As an NES and SNES kid, this makes me incredibly sad

[-] Iteria@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago

I don't see why. I grew up with those systems as well, but Nintendo is actively hostile to videogame culture, so there is no reason for my child to develop a love of Pokémon or Mario. She can be nostalgic over new things.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I think you are missing a big part of my meaning.

As an original Nintendo child, they were different. If they are so bad now that you and others are not letting them be Nintendo children, then it's sad for me because they aren't who they used to be.

If you can't see how is a dad thing that something I loved is now a shitty thing, you are going to have a really tough time in life, given the last few years.

As the saying goes never meet your heroes. Innocence lost kinda thing.

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[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 13 points 11 months ago

I tend to think of it something like this.

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[-] lennee@lemmy.world 130 points 11 months ago

cringe, glad i bought a steamdeck instead of the switch 2

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago

Same tbh. My OG switch is still chugging along just fine. No reason to upgrade, really.

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[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 90 points 11 months ago

Nintendo continuing to ensure they never get a dime from me moving fwd.

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[-] peetabix@sh.itjust.works 62 points 11 months ago

I no longer buy anything Nintendo.

[-] RealM__@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

Same. Passed on the switch 2. Fuck that noise.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago

My line in the sand was when Nintendo went after GMod hosting of their character models.

When they go after emulators, I was upset but at least acknowledge there’s an economic relation there - and there’s some legal basis for protecting their copyright (even if the emulator itself is technically outside their rights).

But taking down models used solely for fan creations is just pointlessly mean. No developer I know is upset about people putting up animations of their game protagonists doing silly shit like slipping on banana peels or getting blown up.

[-] scala@lemmy.ml 22 points 11 months ago

Even before that. Nintendo went after small time Smash Bros tournaments. Giving them CND. Never gave them a cent after that, and I didn't even play in those tourneys

[-] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago

That corporation is still operating as if they're in the 80s, going by their "good old Showa values": heavy-handed proprietary control of their content and platforms, while making heavy use of nostalgia and its properties to keep the money coming in from casual gamers.

[-] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 39 points 11 months ago

Nintendo needs to perish, seriously

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

I'd be sad but its really becoming an old yeller situation.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

There are a lot of Nintendbros to convince. Good luck.

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[-] ElectricWaterfall@lemmy.zip 34 points 11 months ago

How does this benefit Nintendo? I don’t understand.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because they operate on a very outdated understanding of how the world works. In their mind they own the games, they made them after all. The people "buying" the games don't really buy them, they just get a copy of the software and the license to use that copy. That license is limited in what you can and can't do. You can play them by yourself in your own home. You can even play with other people if they are physically in your own home. However if you want to do anything beyond that, it's outside of the license and thus not allowed. If you want to put on an event featuring their games, you need to apply for a license to do so and probably pay Nintendo for that license. Nintendo wants to limit the license even further lately, limiting playing inside your own home to their rules and limiting resale of the game (license).

This may sound crazy, and it is, however this is very much how music still works. And how movies and TV series used to work, and partly still do. It's a limited license for enjoying the media in your own home only. Technically when you throw a party, you would have to apply for a license to play the music you already own. When money is involved, like a bigger event and you don't play by their rules, expect to get sued. This is why the entertainment industry is so huge and the people in the top make so much money.

In the West we've accepted this doesn't apply to video games for the most part. Copying the game is a no-go, but using a game for entertainment purposes is allowed. When a streamer plays a game, they add enough of their own value for it not to be considered a violation. Even at large events, it's usually allowed. Although depending on the context, often license deals are made for the really big events.

There's gray areas as well, such as game modding or using the assets of a game to create a new game. This is also usually accepted, with services like Steam activily supporting mods and such. Most game devs like it when a community forms around their games and support mods. But not Nintendo, they hate this. They go after anyone doing this. Famously almost destroying the careers of people playing modded Nintendo games for entertainment. (Especially SMW romhacks). And people have to go through all sorts of hoops not to attract the eye of Nintendo (like how Ship of Harkinian does things). Another gray area is music in video games, usually that music has a rather open license. But not always and services like Twitch have made deals with the music industry in order to keep existing. That means upholding things like DMCA and muting or even disabling videos which contain copyrighted music. One recent example of this is Death Stranding, which contains so much copyrighted music it's problematic for everyone involved.

It has taken a very long time for the music industry to get around to the concept of streaming music. And even then the license is super limited and people don't own the music they pay for. Same for movies, TV series and other media. It has made them rich for decades, why give that up? Nintendo has always had the same mindset when it comes to video games and aren't going to change.

Personally I don't know why we put up with the BS system for music and other media. Especially the length of time for copyright these days. But large companies like Disney have so much power, it isn't going to change quickly. I feel the only reason we have music streaming at all is because the piracy got so bad they had to. And even then they fought it hard, demanding tens of thousands of dollars from little Timmy who downloaded a Metallica song.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago

Probably because a lot of nintendo games are speedrun on emulators. Since it can be difficult to attain region specific hardware and cartridges that are optimal for speedrunning, they resort to emulators so the barrier of entry isn't unreasonable.

And we all know how Nintendo feels about emulators.

Not to say it explains how it benefits Nintendo. But it explains why they're going this route.

[-] carotte 16 points 11 months ago

nintendo wants total, and I mean TOTAL control over their IP. not a smidge must escape their grasp.

if they could take down every fanart and every meme with their IP in it, they would

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[-] x00z@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

And when I thought Nintendo couldn't get any lower it just does it again.

[-] Coskii 16 points 11 months ago

It would be incredible if somehow every streamer and tuber just stopped broadcasting anything Nintendo, which seems to be something Nintendo wants. I wonder how much of a hit they'd take without those content creators.

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[-] Eh_I@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Nintendo's lawyers won't stop until they kill Nintendo.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Aim at foot, pull trigger. What company lets such an opportunity of free showcasing and advertizing run through their fingers?

[-] thesmokingman@programming.dev 17 points 11 months ago

The most shocking thing to me is that they’re going to feature Nintendo games in the future. I wouldn’t want to jump through all of those hoops just to possibly be rejected or have the content taken down arbitrarily in the future when Nintendo is feeling capricious. That’s a huge investment for very poor expected value.

[-] rkd@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

Congratulations Nintendo, you played yourself.

[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 8 points 11 months ago

People should remake the game they like so much and move on from nintendo bullshit

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 11 months ago

I think Astro Bot is already better than any 3D Mario.

We're missing a really good kart racer though. CTR wasn't it (and certainly not after they stuffed a load of DLC into it weeks after release), and the last one I really enjoyed was Speed Freaks on the PS1...

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[-] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

Looks like money got to their heads. What a shame.

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