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[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 171 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Would you like to work nearly double the standard 40-hour week?

Maybe in the USA. It is 37.5h where I am.

known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week.

Fuck off.

[-] HamFistedVegetarian@feddit.uk 72 points 5 days ago

Sign up to that shit and you are part of the problem. Fuck that.

[-] socialsecurity@piefed.social 20 points 5 days ago

People making 400k... Sure kinda makes sense for a few years but they want to every 150k worker to do the same and thats what this shill slop is about

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[-] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 114 points 5 days ago

known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week

Tl;dr

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago

I'd consider it for:

  • The right job
  • The right money

But it's going to have to be the kind of job I would put in those kinds of hours for free, and get paid at least triple what is reasonably expected.

[-] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 13 points 5 days ago
[-] braxy29@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

yeah, i don't think a job exists where i could sustain that for any period of time before my inevitable mental and physical collapse.

[-] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 5 points 4 days ago

Maybe it’s age talking but I’m at the point where my goal is the job that pays me the most for the least amount of time spent working.

I’m much happier working my “845” (8am-4pm 5 days a week, ideally less) and then being done so I can spend as much time enjoying my life.

[-] neblem@lemmy.world 125 points 5 days ago

So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for anything remotely knowledge work, especially over a long period.

Meanwhile smarter companies are going to a 4 day work week. https://www.investopedia.com/four-daywork-week-study-success-11777896

[-] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 48 points 5 days ago

Nothing to do with productivity. It's all about small dick energy CEOs wanting to validate and underline their self-perceived superior status. "How dare the little people work as little time as me?"

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[-] hovercat 13 points 5 days ago

It honestly blows my mind how these "leaders" get paid billions of dollars to run their companies into the ground because they have no fucking clue how real humans operate.

[-] billygoat@catata.fish 24 points 5 days ago

So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for ~~anything~~ remote~~ly knowledge~~ work, especially over a long period.

How an MBA read this.

[-] horse@feddit.org 12 points 4 days ago

Kobe Bryant dedicated all his waking hours to basketball, and I don’t think there’s a lot of people saying that Kobe Bryant shouldn’t have worked as hard as he did.

Yeah, but he was working to achieve something for himself and not to make some parasite richer.

[-] CerineArkweaver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 5 days ago

Any company that wants me to work a “996“ can fuck ALLLLLLLLLL the way off

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago

The founders can do all the 996 they want, but if they want to have their employees do the same, they should offer a fair share of the company at least.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 days ago

Sorry, best we can do is offer a .00001% stake and pretend like it’s your ticket to early retirement.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That's ok, they can promise more with no intention of ever paying it because there's a special privileged 'preferred' stock that the bigger investors and executives get that's prioritized for sales and dividends before anyone else's.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

You are not kidding. I have some experience with startup stock options and... it's not pretty.

Before anyone retorts with remarks about "phantom stock" and other similar offers, I want you to do some math.

Figure out what the 'strike price' of that stock is likely to be when it matures, and calculate what the payout will be. Then figure out capital gains tax and subtract that. Divide what's left over by the amount of unpaid overtime (hours in excess of 40 a week) you're going to put in for the maturation window. Lastly, compare these figures to other testimonials in your field, and also, look up typical yearly bonus figures for more mature companies. You're going to see that it's not a lot of cash for the extra time, that it's nowhere near your base pay rate, and more established companies are going to do a better job of compensating folks for less effort. You may even find that with a 996 grind-set, it might pay out less than taking a second job at retail.

I can also warn you that if the company sells instead of going IPO, you may get a much smaller payout than all that. I was in a situation where they threw the advertised strike price in the trash, and negotiated a sale of everyone's stock to the buying company for much, much less.

[-] atticus88th@lemmy.world 53 points 5 days ago

As long as I get paid 2.5x my 40hr pay sure. Otherwise my fellow unionized tech bros are collectively saying "go fuck yourself"

[-] thejml@sh.itjust.works 68 points 5 days ago

If I was in my 20’s I’d have thought about that 2.5x offer. Now that I’m in my 40’s I can say i wouldn’t even do it for 5x. You can’t buy back missed time, no matter how much money you have.

Part of me says that I’d do it for 20x… but I’d just end up quitting in a few months, take my money and retire early.

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

I did it (we called it 6x12s) for about 2-3 years in my 30s. At the time it felt worth it; food, lodging, and transportation were all covered as well. I don’t really regret it most days but looking back years later I think it may have damaged friendships more than I’d realized until recently.

There’s no fucking way I’d do it now. Now I’m just one bad day away from rage quitting and retiring. Unfortunately I’m in a great position with a great boss and a reasonable work load and ample coverage and support and never been denied time off so that bad day isn’t likely to come anytime soon.

[-] vane@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

People are stupid, they have whole nature around them, but they are killing it to create computers and escape the planet.
That's sad.

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[-] ordinarylove 18 points 5 days ago

why are they working so much, they don't do anything

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 37 points 5 days ago
[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago

That counts as your break. 🤨

[-] ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago

Embracing? This is been the reality for many startups for a long time. Same with many game devs and animation studios too. Many technical jobs grind their staff despite being the most profitable industries. It is almost like the more money you make, the more you abuse your staff.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Silicon Valley Workforces Embracing Controversial ‘Kill The Asshole CEOs’ Strategy

[-] Geodad@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

That sounds like a good way to have your entire workforce quit on you...

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 30 points 5 days ago

Fuck right off.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

The Americans and their piss poor labor laws, They like working beyond the point of diminishing return.

[-] jaykrown@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

I would work that many hours a week as long as I got paid +$1 million a year. Otherwise, it would just make more sense to start my own business.

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 points 5 days ago

Good, keep those freaks away from the rest of us.

[-] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 days ago

Will they be introducing company stores next?

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[-] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Our product will make all jobs obsolete. That's why we need to work our employees to death making it!

[-] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago

Actually saying that they want slave labor is considered bad public relations.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

Yes, work yourself to death for the profits of the oligarchy, you morons. See what thanks you get.

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[-] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Give me a decent chunk of the company so I make proportional profits. Otherwise, no thanks.

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

I wouldn't do it for money... I'd do it for a SHITLOAD of money (and then collect unemployment once the bubble bursts, as a soft-retirement)

[-] rhvg@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Culture revolution, 996, USA has imported so many good stuff from China. Next one should be removing president term limit I guess?

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Already on that. In progress.

[-] HertzDentalBar 10 points 5 days ago

Capitalists going to capitalist

[-] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago

that probably goes along with that $20M zuck offered to AI professionals. Yeah, we'll pay you $20M a year, you'll be spent around 6mon into the job your productivity will be 60% so.. (taps calculator) we get f#ck all for a sh%t ton of money and destroy people... letsdoit!

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago

I'm pretty sure half these articles are issued by the companies themselves just to get people outraged and talking about this, just so that they can test the waters and see how many people will defend it.

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[-] 0ndead@infosec.pub 3 points 4 days ago

I’ll agree to it, but best I can do is 2 hours a day dawg

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