Would you like to work nearly double the standard 40-hour week?
Maybe in the USA. It is 37.5h where I am.
known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week.
Fuck off.
Would you like to work nearly double the standard 40-hour week?
Maybe in the USA. It is 37.5h where I am.
known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week.
Fuck off.
Sign up to that shit and you are part of the problem. Fuck that.
People making 400k... Sure kinda makes sense for a few years but they want to every 150k worker to do the same and thats what this shill slop is about
known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week
Tl;dr
fuck that
I'd consider it for:
But it's going to have to be the kind of job I would put in those kinds of hours for free, and get paid at least triple what is reasonably expected.
I would not.
yeah, i don't think a job exists where i could sustain that for any period of time before my inevitable mental and physical collapse.
Maybe it’s age talking but I’m at the point where my goal is the job that pays me the most for the least amount of time spent working.
I’m much happier working my “845” (8am-4pm 5 days a week, ideally less) and then being done so I can spend as much time enjoying my life.
So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for anything remotely knowledge work, especially over a long period.
Meanwhile smarter companies are going to a 4 day work week. https://www.investopedia.com/four-daywork-week-study-success-11777896
Nothing to do with productivity. It's all about small dick energy CEOs wanting to validate and underline their self-perceived superior status. "How dare the little people work as little time as me?"
It honestly blows my mind how these "leaders" get paid billions of dollars to run their companies into the ground because they have no fucking clue how real humans operate.
So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for ~~anything~~ remote~~ly knowledge~~ work, especially over a long period.
How an MBA read this.
Kobe Bryant dedicated all his waking hours to basketball, and I don’t think there’s a lot of people saying that Kobe Bryant shouldn’t have worked as hard as he did.
Yeah, but he was working to achieve something for himself and not to make some parasite richer.
Any company that wants me to work a “996“ can fuck ALLLLLLLLLL the way off
The founders can do all the 996 they want, but if they want to have their employees do the same, they should offer a fair share of the company at least.
Sorry, best we can do is offer a .00001% stake and pretend like it’s your ticket to early retirement.
That's ok, they can promise more with no intention of ever paying it because there's a special privileged 'preferred' stock that the bigger investors and executives get that's prioritized for sales and dividends before anyone else's.
You are not kidding. I have some experience with startup stock options and... it's not pretty.
Before anyone retorts with remarks about "phantom stock" and other similar offers, I want you to do some math.
Figure out what the 'strike price' of that stock is likely to be when it matures, and calculate what the payout will be. Then figure out capital gains tax and subtract that. Divide what's left over by the amount of unpaid overtime (hours in excess of 40 a week) you're going to put in for the maturation window. Lastly, compare these figures to other testimonials in your field, and also, look up typical yearly bonus figures for more mature companies. You're going to see that it's not a lot of cash for the extra time, that it's nowhere near your base pay rate, and more established companies are going to do a better job of compensating folks for less effort. You may even find that with a 996 grind-set, it might pay out less than taking a second job at retail.
I can also warn you that if the company sells instead of going IPO, you may get a much smaller payout than all that. I was in a situation where they threw the advertised strike price in the trash, and negotiated a sale of everyone's stock to the buying company for much, much less.
As long as I get paid 2.5x my 40hr pay sure. Otherwise my fellow unionized tech bros are collectively saying "go fuck yourself"
If I was in my 20’s I’d have thought about that 2.5x offer. Now that I’m in my 40’s I can say i wouldn’t even do it for 5x. You can’t buy back missed time, no matter how much money you have.
Part of me says that I’d do it for 20x… but I’d just end up quitting in a few months, take my money and retire early.
I did it (we called it 6x12s) for about 2-3 years in my 30s. At the time it felt worth it; food, lodging, and transportation were all covered as well. I don’t really regret it most days but looking back years later I think it may have damaged friendships more than I’d realized until recently.
There’s no fucking way I’d do it now. Now I’m just one bad day away from rage quitting and retiring. Unfortunately I’m in a great position with a great boss and a reasonable work load and ample coverage and support and never been denied time off so that bad day isn’t likely to come anytime soon.
People are stupid, they have whole nature around them, but they are killing it to create computers and escape the planet.
That's sad.
why are they working so much, they don't do anything
vomits in trashcan
That counts as your break. 🤨
Embracing? This is been the reality for many startups for a long time. Same with many game devs and animation studios too. Many technical jobs grind their staff despite being the most profitable industries. It is almost like the more money you make, the more you abuse your staff.
Silicon Valley Workforces Embracing Controversial ‘Kill The Asshole CEOs’ Strategy
That sounds like a good way to have your entire workforce quit on you...
Fuck right off.
The Americans and their piss poor labor laws, They like working beyond the point of diminishing return.
I would work that many hours a week as long as I got paid +$1 million a year. Otherwise, it would just make more sense to start my own business.
Good, keep those freaks away from the rest of us.
Our product will make all jobs obsolete. That's why we need to work our employees to death making it!
Actually saying that they want slave labor is considered bad public relations.
Yes, work yourself to death for the profits of the oligarchy, you morons. See what thanks you get.
Give me a decent chunk of the company so I make proportional profits. Otherwise, no thanks.
I wouldn't do it for money... I'd do it for a SHITLOAD of money (and then collect unemployment once the bubble bursts, as a soft-retirement)
Culture revolution, 996, USA has imported so many good stuff from China. Next one should be removing president term limit I guess?
Already on that. In progress.
Capitalists going to capitalist
that probably goes along with that $20M zuck offered to AI professionals. Yeah, we'll pay you $20M a year, you'll be spent around 6mon into the job your productivity will be 60% so.. (taps calculator) we get f#ck all for a sh%t ton of money and destroy people... letsdoit!
I'm pretty sure half these articles are issued by the companies themselves just to get people outraged and talking about this, just so that they can test the waters and see how many people will defend it.
I’ll agree to it, but best I can do is 2 hours a day dawg
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