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[-] aeternum 118 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

we kill 3T animals a year for food/medicine/clothing/etc. Maybe we should stop?

edit: sorry, that was quite extreme of me to suggest we don't kill 3T animals a year.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 72 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm going to go brutally murder and deep-fry my dog just to cancel out whatever grass you ate today, you extremist vegoon! something something lions something desert island grumble grumble muh canines

Hope that serves as a warning the next time you feel like ~~expressing an opinion that differs from mine~~ being preachy.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 3 months ago

Look I get you but

points at fangs

Canines though

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 months ago

^ Vampire! Run for your lives!!!

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[-] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 3 months ago

not sure what the edit is for... you looking to be disagreed with? are there comments I can't see?

[-] aeternum 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I was merely pointing out that people call people extremists for not eating animals, but they don't recognise that killing TRILLIONS of animals a year is extreme.

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[-] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 74 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Source?

Im gonna go out on a limb and say this is udder cowshit. Rats are mammals, as are raccoons, squirrels, and whole fucking masses of little basically unfarmable varmints. You're telling me that there's like 12 farm cows for every wild rat on earth?

Horse. Shit.

[-] needanke@feddit.org 76 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The source apperently takes the percentages by biomass, not by count as it seems. So small varmints will not have as much of an impact as a human or cow would.

[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 months ago

in the comments section. straight up 'sourcing it'. and by 'it', haha, well. let's justr say. My pnas.

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Which I think is intentionally disingenuous as it massively favours the large mammals over the far higher number of species of smaller mammals.

For example you'd need over 70 squeal monkeys to make to the biomass of an average American.

Humans and other great apes can be considered mega fauna, so it doesn't seem surprising that us and the animals we consume make up a higher percentage of bio mass. Were bigger.

[-] SkyeStarfall 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't think it's disingenuous. It represents the total share of resource consumption. If something has 2x the biomass, it consumed 2x the materials needed to produce that biomass (purely in terms of the makeup of the body, that is)

I don't think count by itself is very relevant. There's more bacteria in a glass of water than there are humans in a country, but what does that tell you, exactly?

Although I do agree the infographic should be changed to specify biomass

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[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Quick Internet search.... https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass

They are referring to biomass.

  • 1 cow ~ 1200 lbs / 545 kg

  • 1 rat ~ 0.5 lbs / 0.25 kg

1 cow ~ 2400 rats by biomass

[-] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Well thats not what the infographic says. It specifies "mammals", not "mammals by weight".

OK so how many tons of cow are accounted for by whales?

Or does the survey cherry pick land animals too?

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 70 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Livestock have to live through horrible agony, like the worst kind of torture. This means (by biomass, which some people correlate indirectly with moral worth), at least 60% of mammals on Earth undergo horrible torture. Bentham's Bulldog, "Factory Farming is Literally Torture."

Excess pigs were roasted to death. Specifically, these pigs were killed by having hot steam enter the barn, at around 150 degrees, leading to them choking, suffocating, and roasting to death. It’s hard to see how an industry that chokes and burns beings to death can be said to be anything other than nightmarish, especially given that pigs are smarter than dogs.

Ozy Brennan: the subjective experience of animal's suffering 10/10 intense agony is likely the same as the subjective experience of a human suffering such agony. (~6 paragraph article, well worth a read.)

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 months ago
[-] Soulg@ani.social 16 points 3 months ago

Lmao the slurs you make up are so cute

Nobody defends factory farms they're universally hated

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 12 points 3 months ago

Nobody defends factory farms they’re universally hated

But not enough for people to boycott, other than a single-digit % of the population.

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[-] Gustephan@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago

I don't think this is loss. I'm ready to eat crow if I'm proven wrong, but I think the real joke is the amount of time people will spend staring at this image and trying to figure out how it's loss

[-] Pierre121000@lemmy.ml 49 points 3 months ago
[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 months ago

I don't want to sound all Malthusian but that's kind of fucked??

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago

more elephants than I expected tbh

[-] ExhaleSmile@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago
[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago

I know. It's still more elephants than I expected.

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[-] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 months ago
[-] Bosht@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

Title made me think they were doing some 4 levels deep "loss" meme. It almost has it but frame 3 isn't close.

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[-] graycube@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Are pets livestock, or did they miss a category of mammals? In the US there are more dogs than children.

[-] hakase@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 months ago

It's intentionally misleading, like most vegan propaganda. It's by mass, not population.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 29 points 3 months ago

Biomass is the usual way this sort of data is presented in environmental science. I think calling it “propaganda” is a bit much. But yes if would have been better if that were clear on the infographic.

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[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 15 points 3 months ago

End of the Holocene, Last of the Megafauna party.

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[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 15 points 3 months ago

birbs are only 2/3rds unreal confirmed ✅

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 3 months ago

I didn't realise rhinos were so small. No wonder I never see them.

[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

This is highly depressing to see first thing in the morning.

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