Dude needs to stop playing predatory gacha games.
I don't understand people who WILLINGLY install that shit. They KNOW how they work and are monetized. And unlike gambling at a casino, there's zero chance of you being up money at any point.
I think of them as "Gotcha!" games, cause their point is to trick you.
I think that's where the term gacha comes from. A japanization of the term gotcha.
No, "gacha" comes from "gashapon," the crank vending machines, and the name is an onomatopoeia. "Gacha" (or "gasha") is the sound of the crank being turned, and "pon" is the sound of the capsule dropping out.
For forever I thought that was the correct spelling and the entire point
Addiction doesn't really care about this kind of logic.
gambling isn't an addiction, it's a lifestyle.
Professionals disagree with you.
Like it's in the definition lol.
Gambling An Addictive Behavior with Health and Primary Care Implications
I feel like it's easy to conflate addiction with chemical addiction specifically. Anything that releases endorphins in your body can become addictive. Watching TV, playing video games, sweet foods, sex, etc, all have the potential to become addictive.
addictions counselor here, can confirm Rooskie91 has a pretty accurate response
I'm guessing where you get caught up is in the fact that it's a behavioral addiction , right?
well the medical community isn't far off. gambling disorder is only now just starting to become recognized as an addiction. there's trouble too, because "addiction" isn't an appropriate medical term anymore -- it's "substance use disorder" which encompasses a much wider range of problematic behaviors. and yet! if someone comes in with primary Dx Gambling Disorder, we can't bill that as SUD services because it's technically not a substance lol
behavioral addictions are very similar in how they work and how they're treated. tbh the main difference is just the lack of risk from acute intoxication / withdrawal. gambling disorder can and does completely ruin lives.
Gambling forms addiction in the same way as social media. It forms skinner boxes of sorts.
Exactly. I have been gaming for decades, yet I never played any of these. Only heard of WOW and Apex Legends out of all the names, no idea what the rest are.
It is possible to spend your money and time on games that provide the entertainment you’re looking for, but not exploit you.
Gacha?
All (or most, don't recognize some) of these are gacha games. You get characters by participating in essentially a slot machine (hence the name "pulling"), more or less. The more powerful characters have lower odds. You can do dailies for pulls or you can spend money to pull more often.
Huh, that sounds like shit. Why would anyone play that?
I know when Factorio introduced quality some people complained it was like gambling, but in Factorio its done at a level where probability just averages out. I want a rare shiny iron plate and 2% of the time I will get one. So if I make 25,000 iron plates per minute I will be getting 500 rare shiny plates a minute.
Why do people gamble? Because that’s what this is.
The companies don’t even care about the average player. They are trying to hook rich people with more money then sense, aka whales.
A long time ago the industry realized an extremely small percent blows way more money than all the others combined.
If you ever played a game with any kind of monitization and asked yourself why everything is $40 and how the average player can afford it, this is why.
So the 1% are the problem in games as well.
lol, precisely!
I don’t understand people who WILLINGLY install that shit
The ads are everywhere and the games are often F2P - no barrier to download or install. Excellent for hooking younger kids, especially ones whose parents can't or won't give them access to the old fashioned games.
And unlike gambling at a casino, there’s zero chance of you being up money at any point.
Arguably the singular upside. You can coast in a Gacha game without losing a ton of money a lot longer than you'll last in Vegas.
I played Arknights for a bit because there's actually a pretty solid tower defense game in there. There's not a big selection of good games for Android and I wanted something I could play when I have no laptop with me.
Unfortunately the good gameplay is buried under tons of attention hogging gacha bullshit.
I stopped playing once I realized that I was spending more time doing chores than actually playing through interesting content. Also, while the BGM is nothing short of lavish, the presentation of the story is like a very cheap VN, which basically killed any hope of getting engaged in the story or the characters.
I didn't spend much more than maybe twenty bucks on it so it's not too bad given the partially solid gameplay. But yeah, I'm done with live service bullshit games.
All work and no pay...
I actually do know people who do this. Its pretty crazy to me. Like I game a decent amount, then feel bad that I wasted that time. So I do a bunch of projects and get out of the house to feel better. I guess these people don't have that need, which must be kind of nice!
Also card carrying ADHD but I believe in this quote (whoever originally said it).
Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time
There's still a distinction between enjoying it in the particular moment versus enjoying the entire sum of all the moments, looking back.
In food testing there are different preferences for how much someone enjoys a single bite of something versus enjoying an entire serving of that same thing. So even if someone prefers a sip of Pepsi over Coca Cola, they may nevertheless prefer an entire can of Coke over Pepsi. Same with all sorts of other consumer preferences.
With online activity, there's a lot of stuff out there that is the equivalent of digital junk food, where you may enjoy a specific moment but feel shitty about spending an entire day on those individual moments. The payoff that can come from some of the long term patience can sometimes be more satisfying than an endless stream of instant gratification.
That ia true, and i don't really think of it as a waste. But I have guilt that I always MUST BE DOING SOMETHING
Time enjoyed is not time wasted. It's a different matter if you play games but don't actually feel like you're enjoying it, though.
Someone should shop in the new horse girl gacha game into this greentext.
Games that require daily participation to make any sort of progress are a non-starter for me. I have other shit that's far more interesting than fake anime tiddies.
It is simultaneously an obnoxious speed bump that slows down my ability to binge when I've got free time and a needy attention drain when I'm absorbed in something else.
Truly the worst of both worlds.
I've been playing Total Annihilation the last couple days. The 1997 game that you can still get on GOG for $5. I had it as a kid and played all the time.
My son has been wanting to play it with me, so I gave him a quick rundown on "skirmish" mode earlier tonight. He caught on pretty quick. It can get brutal though. Hopefully I can get the network muliplayer working so we can play together.
Worth every penny.
Game better, nerd
What kind of time warp are you in? Just doing WoW dailies took all day and made me realize I was wasting my life.
Wake up
Play Roguetrader
Get bored after 4 hours
Read Ciaphus Cain fanfics
Forget to eat
Jackoff
Pass out
Wakeup and eat expired MRE
Play Hoi4
Go to sleep
This was annoying to write on my phone.
I mean, trans-lesbianism is right there ... OP could be doing all of this, with "just good friends"!!
And we wonder why Jordan Peterson telling someone like this to make their bed blows their whole mind.
Jordan Petersen is a trash heap and making a bad faith argument.
and... still blows their mind with "make your bed"
What is that? Never seen that before
Stop that, you're scaring him!!
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