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[-] grue@lemmy.world 78 points 3 weeks ago

I think a more recent map is more interesting:

Remember, America was not built for the car, as ignorant people often claim. It was demolished for the car.

[-] FinnFooted@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

What's crazy to me is that many of the railroads still exist and are used... But for freight only.

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 weeks ago

I looked at taking the train from Albuquerque to Denver, it goes east to Chicago before going back to Denver. It is a 7 hour drive, but a 32 hour train ride.

[-] prole 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

To be fair, we're using really fucking old technology so it's not surprising that it's that much slower.

If we had proper high speed rail, like the Shinkansen, it would be much shorter.

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 weeks ago

There is also the fact for a 450 mile trip you have to go 2300 miles.

[-] jnod4@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

What people with epilepsy or other conditions do?

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

suffer in silence
but also hopefully they have friends and family who will chaffeur them, and greyhound buses exist, airplanes too.

[-] TwiddleTwaddle 14 points 3 weeks ago

Look at what they took from us!

[-] sommerset@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 weeks ago

Cars are much more convenient than railroads

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

No they're not - when I sleep during the car trip, everyone freaks out!

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 3 weeks ago

I mean sure. I just wish I had the choice and could do cars for just the last miles.

Cars are more convenient than a bus route locally but long distance travel where everyone can sleep to be rested for vacation and there no big security theater for local travel and I just keep my bags and snacks? Ugh so good.

It doesn't have to be more convenient in destination choices but in travel I think it has some positives.

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It has not gotten too much better since then, for passenger trains anyway.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

It got way better between the 1860s and 1940s. The issue is that starting in the '50s it declined again.

[-] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 10 points 3 weeks ago

Funny how the southern states literally only had Mobile, New Orleans, and Charleston. The war should've been a year long no diff ngl. Good generals make a difference, who could've guessed?

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 8 points 3 weeks ago

If labour is free, you don’t need industrialisation, and that attitude carries over to logistics.

[-] join@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The northern elite also didn’t want to win at the start of the war: the union as it was, constitution as it is (with slavery that is). For the northern elite the south was a source of cheap cotton and an export market for finished goods, winning decisively would break that balance.

The end of slavery was truly a bottoms up movement, that forced the contradiction to be so great that it could not exist in one country.

John Dolan (aka the war nerd) has a great series on this subject on his podcast: Radio War Nerd.

[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

The north was also fighting in enemy territory. If you ignore that part, for example, then our recent wars in the Middle East don't make any sense.

[-] Zorsith 5 points 3 weeks ago

Cincinnati has a huge train station turned into a museum, it was pretty cool from what i remember

[-] Aedis@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

And those lines that are in NYC? Yup the same ones we use today. They haven't been updated since I bet.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

oh sure they have! they tore down the overhead wire :))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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