Social Democracy is not the same as Socialism. But, I wasn’t following the race, maybe he does want the public to own the means of production.
I get the hesitation since in US politics they often get conflated and I can’t say I’ve followed him very closely but someone else shared this. I know he’s also advocating for city owned grocery stores.
Quite a lot of red states have state owned liquor stores,[0] so city owned grocery stores doesn't sound that radical. Apparently, Atlanta is doing it.[1] I hadn't heard of this idea before, but web search shows it is a thing. I'd consider it socialism if he also wants to close down the privately run grocery stores. He doesn't seem to be doing that
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_beverage_control_state
Apparently, Atlanta is doing it.[1]
I'm an Atlantan and this is the first I'm hearing of it. Neat!
Reading the article, though, it's really just that the city is subsidizing a private business (and in one of the two cases, acting as its landlord) in order to create an incentive to open in a food desert, not actually getting into the business of operating a grocery store directly itself.
I mean, I got a loan from Invest Atlanta to help with the down payment on my house, but that doesn't mean the city owns my house or that it's some kind of 'government housing.'
so he is a socialist?
From everything I’ve seen, yes, he’s an actual socialist.
The word gets used so often as a pejorative it's weird to see it used accurately by that crowd.
I'm OK with it because maybe when they realize he's just a guy making decisions to help his community, it will remove a smidge of the ZOMG SOCIALISM reaction to folks like not only him, but also Bernie, and maybe others who might like to call themselves social democrats instead of democrats.
If Bernie and AOC start the social democrat party tomorrow with Mamdani and others, I'm registering before the ink is dry.
Also Democratic Socialism (Mamdani's beliefs) are not the same as Social Democracy. They are slightly different.
It's just a primary guys. Let's hope he wins the seat.
If Cuomo runs 3rd party and the Dem establishment supports him, I'm going to fling that back at anyone who tells me to not vote 3rd party in a presidential election, lol.
I'm going to flip out if the dems support Cuomo and I'm honestly half expecting them to
I'm fully expecting them to. The Dem leadership supporting an ACTUAL leftist is only SLIGHTLY more likely than them going full fascist and endorsing Curtis Sliwa..
half expecting
Sweet summer child.
"Vote blue no matter who"
Mamdani wins historic primary victory
".....shit"
You're going to fling that a high-profile and well-recognized (even amongst non-politically engaged voters) organization gave recognition and resources to a third party in a local (not even gubernatorial but) mayoral election as a counter defense for voting for a third party in a presidential election?
If they do it against a progressive after making a huge deal about not doing it against a centrist? You may like that level of rank hypocrisy.
If Cuomo runs 3rd party
He's running as an independent, yes.
and the Dem establishment supports him
Unless they suddenly fall back in love with Adams or go full Sliwa, they will. They fight the left exactly as much as they accommodate the far right.
It would take a catastrophe for him not to.
His opponents in the general are as follows:
The corrupt former governor sex pest he just beat, running as an independent in order to get a do-over
Current mayor in spite of being a hair's breath from prison until he went full MAGA, always being a fascist cop (but I repeat myself) and genuinely unhinged, Eric Adams
Perennial loser and hyper-racist vigilante lunatic Curtis Sliwa.
Not only are they all awful candidates in themselves, their core demographics also overlap to such a degree that it'll be an upset if more than one of them reaches double digits!
If NYC uses ranked choice voting in the general as well and Cuomo learns from his disaster of a campaign then he might try coalition-building with Eric Adams or others to pull off a win by getting neoliberals and MAGA to gang up on Zohran. It's a headscratcher for me because I never expect neoliberals to learn from their mistakes, and yet they might actually feel forced to because they never fail to pull out all the stops against progressives, let alone an actual socialist.
"Socialism" lol
It is a win though, it shows people are willing to vote for change ~~through alternative parties~~ and thats fucking huge
He's a Democrat, not 3rd party.
Shit I will amend that. Forgot he won the democratic primary. He is still heavily associated with DSA though and this is well known.
Because he had to run in the democratic primary in order to have a shot. He’s a member of the DSA tho—I feel like it’s disingenuous to call him just “a Democrat” (same with AOC)
AOC is a Democrat too, what is the issue? There are factions within the Democrats and she's in one of them but afaict she is nowhere near as radical as she was depicted as being. Part of that is from getting slapped around by the leadership I'm sure.
They will rig the general. Look to the firms in control of the individual machines and the tabulation servers…
Looks like Cuomo is planning to run as an independent to split the vote.
Considering Eric Adams already is running as an independent, Cuomo is more likely to siphon votes away from him. Although I think it will be ranked choice anyway, so "splitting" the vote won't really matter.
The general is FPTP. Adams and Cuomo can fight for attention, they share the same demographic of assholes
That's great that AIPAC had a backup plan
Apparently, Faux News calls him "Zohran the Destroyer". This is exactly the sort of name that I want with progressive leadership. 🤩
The number of opinion pieces having meltdowns over Mamdani is simply off the charts. The fascists and neolibs are losing their minds about this. It’s incredible.
Mamdani isn’t even remotely radical as far as leftists go. What’s he’s proposing is just the bare minimum of common sense as far as the rest of the world is concerned.
They're acting like Luigi broke out and started making the world a better place one capitalist at a time again.
allegedly
C'mon! Status Cuomo was right there!
Keep talking in ways that highlight progressive values, and you'll get more of this.
He's quite charismatic.
No idea about Mamdani but does the election not mostly show that people hate Andrew Cuomo? He seemed awful.
No, this campaign was everything you could ask for
His core platform - free and faster buses, free childcare, rent freezes, and no one making less than $1M will be paying for any of it
It's simple, it's hard to fear monger against, and it's things the people want. The best they had was "but he's Muslim"
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