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[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 22 points 9 months ago

Quite a lot of red states have state owned liquor stores,[0] so city owned grocery stores doesn't sound that radical. Apparently, Atlanta is doing it.[1] I hadn't heard of this idea before, but web search shows it is a thing. I'd consider it socialism if he also wants to close down the privately run grocery stores. He doesn't seem to be doing that

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_beverage_control_state

[1] https://thefern.org/2025/03/are-government-owned-grocery-stores-the-answer-to-americas-food-desert-problem/

[-] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Apparently, Atlanta is doing it.[1]

I'm an Atlantan and this is the first I'm hearing of it. Neat!

Reading the article, though, it's really just that the city is subsidizing a private business (and in one of the two cases, acting as its landlord) in order to create an incentive to open in a food desert, not actually getting into the business of operating a grocery store directly itself.

I mean, I got a loan from Invest Atlanta to help with the down payment on my house, but that doesn't mean the city owns my house or that it's some kind of 'government housing.'

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

I see. Question then is whether the store operator gets to set the prices. Donald Trump of course lives in government housing right now, so that's ok too.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

That's a fair criticism. Usually with public-private partnerships there's requirements they have to meet though. I'm curious what those are planned to look like. It could be something as lax as "continue operating at this location" or it could be "prices cannot exceed this value, and employees must have these things, etc."

It could be a good start to actual state operated grocery stores, but starting from scratch and setting up the logistics is an insane barrier, and it's also part of the issue. It's too hard to compete with existing companies, so they can do whatever they want and no one else can reasonably enter the market to compete with them.

[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

The government running public alternatives isn't socialism. Socialism is specifically about control of the means of production. The only people who think socialism is when the government does stuff are Bernie bros who think Sweden is socialist and MAGA who also think Sweden is socialist. Basically, if someone think that Sweden is socialist then they have no idea what they're talking about.

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