Poor people be voting for the conservative while higher income people be voting for the socialist. This is so ironic...
Edit: Source: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/24/us/elections/nyc-mayor-primary-results-precinct-map.html
It's makes you want to cry or throw a big shiny round bomb in someone's gilded carriage. One of those two.
Looks like the lower income is the Bronx and a bit of Brooklyn. Higher income is Manhattan and the Brooklyn/queens riverfront. The middle income map is more like what I'd expect to see overall based on the neighborhoods. More Cuomo for Staten Island/False New Jersey as well as east Brooklyn/Queens/Don't call it Long Island (even though they act like Nassau county is out in the country). There's a bunch of conservative, racist pricks that insist on NYC being the greatest (so they're definitely part of it) but off in homeowning urban areas pissed that they're making suburb money but paying urban prices. All while refusing to enjoy the fun parts of the city because they don't like the people there.
How long util he gets couped by the CIA?
They're already pre-announcing the Reichstag Fire they're about to stage.
(I'm assuming it will be executed with the full and enthusiastic cooperation of the nypd)
CIA doesn't even need to get involved. Just a "terrorist" accusation and arrest them.
Bu- bu- but is he gonna visit Israel? /s
context
In a debate they asked where candidates would visit. Once one of them said they'd visit Israel, a lot of others said they would too. Mamdani basically said he'd stay in NYC because he'd be the mayor and it's important to focus on his constituents. So then the moderators are like "Just to clarify, you wouldn't visit Israel?" And he's like I wanna focus on New Yorkers then they're like "Do you support Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state?" 🙄 Absolutely insane. The man just answers "where would you visit" by saying he wouldn't travel so he can focus on constituents and it turns into a purity test about his views on Israel's existence? Just shameful. Like imagine if someone is like "I'll have a salad" and then the waiter asks "Do you support cattle farmer's right to earn a living?"
There are a lot of Jewish people in NYC, though, as Jesse Jackson once famously (and crudely) noted....
And?
I'm honestly surprised Mamdani is still alive in the US, given his name.
It's like hearing about a mayor in a town in Nazi Germany named Abram Mankowitz.
The fact that Clinton endorsed Cuomo is the cherry on top.
When do you think they'll realize their name is poisonous? Or would that require more introspection than a Clinton is even capable of?
I'm suspicious that sociopaths are a parasitic subspecies. Like there are these alien creatures that look entirely human walking around among us. They look like us, talk like us, but think that the general human species is inferior to their own.
What if they could identify other sociopaths, and were working in concert. Hmm, this is ridiculous.
Anyway, yeah. I don't think Clinton is capable of that level of introspection.
Ya love to see it
Holy shit! It happened! I'm elated.
Edit: Congrats New Yorkers!
Watch that rat fuck run as independent to split the vote.
"Nearly a quarter of early voters had not voted in a Democratic primary at any point between 2012 and 2024."
https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-primary-results-2025-election
Here you go folks- GET INVOLVED! Go vote! Every single election, especially primaries.
If this election was held in 2023, you have to wonder if the outcome would have been wildly different.
For once, an encouraging sign for sanity and common sense.
Yeah, that's what we all thought when Biden won.
I called the 2024 election when Biden won in 2020. He was a shitty corporate centrist candidate who was never going to address our deep structural inequality, and so frustrated uneducated people voted for change in 2024. Obama won 2008 because people wanted "Change". Trump won 2016 to drain the swamp. We're all so sick of this crony corporate bullshit.
Socialists or we lose. It should've been obvious all along that the "centrists" and "Libertarians" are just embarrassed Republicans. America has been sick and tired of corporations overtly ruling for decades and moderates don't want to own that.
Voters weren't scared of a dictatorship on day one by a guy quoting Hitler. And at this point, they aren't scared of socialism, not anymore. The only way we win elections is by supporting candidates who are actually good. Even if a moderate wins this election, they'll lose us the next election and the good half will be undone. We can only discount the value of the next election iff our candidate will address our broken elections.
TL;DR: Socialists or we lose.
Biden was right when he said "Nothing will fundamentally change"
How did the swamp draining go?
explodicle didn't mention Trump running on draining the swamp because they believed he would do that or because they support Trump in any way. The point (very clearly) is that even people as uneducated, uninformed, and oblivious as MAGAts can tell that there is something very wrong about how America was being ran, and even they wanted something to change. The fact that Trump lied about draining the swamp and the fact that his intentions was to bring in a sewer to replace it is irrelevant. The fact that they were naive to believe him is irrelevant.
The point is that most of us want actual change, not centrist corporate stooges like Biden and Harris. Whether the people put their faith in the wrong ones to change things in the past is beside the point.
And no, the fact that people showed up in record numbers to vote for Biden in 2020 does not prove this trend is incorrect. At that point Biden was a significant change from Trump in the eyes of many people. He deceived people that he was going to be significantly different in the same way Trump did.
If you are still confused try reading the TL:DR again, "Socialists or we lose." They were 1000% not expecting Trump to actually drain the swamp.
Judging by our last conversation where you blamed the people who voted for Harris for Trump getting elected, this nuance is going to fly right over your head. The fact that you took a comment calling for people to vote for socialist candidates as someone supporting Trump pretty clearly shows you aren't the sharpest potato in the sack.
I also know you are a pro-capitalist, anti-socialist, corporate boot-licker, so it's no surprise people calling for socialist candidates to be elected is against your ideals and you would like to muddy the waters as much as you can, but I think it's clear to everyone you aren't arguing in good faith.
You proving me right in 3...2...1...
Yeah I didn’t think that. Biden was a bandaid that let the wound fester.
Biden was a hope for a return to a normalcy that ceased to exist in 2015.
Good. The Democratic machine didn’t want this. It happened anyways. Maybe they will pull head from ass. (Doubtful)
The Democratic Machine whatever the fuck you think it is, is a magical machine of the gaps. When voters don't show up, The Machine does whatever it wants. When voters vote, The Machine has to listen.
I hear Hasan Piker (not a really a "fan" btw, just like to watch clips of people blabbing about politics) say that there are some people that were like "Bernie seems like a great guy, I hope he wins", then prinary day come in their state and they're like "What's a primary?" 🤦♂️
The voters voted DESPITE the democratic party
The democratic party didn't canvas those neighborhoods, the democratic party didn't knock over a million doors, the democratic party didn't win this election
DEMOCRATIC SOCALISTS OF AMERICA WON THIS ELECTION
And you should GET FUCKING USED TO IT. Your machine is broken and worthless, you just witnessed an actual campaign for the people, by the people, and look at the results. Fuck the DNC.
You have a lot riding on a single election in one of the most democratic parts of the country. While I agree that Democratic Socialists did make a push here that could well set the tone of politics for the next 20 years on the left side of America, I'd hesitate to say it with certainty, given how crass American voters can be. Let's let ZM actually get elected mayor, and let him prove he can get a DS platform passed in NYC before we crown him America's saviour.
How uncharitable do you want me to be in my response to this? If you agree with my point about DSA winning this election in spite of the democratic party's best efforts then everything else in your comment can be deleted
You just described what coalition politics actually is. When your candidate can gather support, or when a group of people can gather together and push a candidate, that group of people can do political activism, and elect their candidate. Do it enough time, and you get yourself a political force that can then communicate with other political forces to achieve their goals. The way US democracy operates, there can be only two viable coalitions, but the rest remains.
Americans have this weird perverted view of the political process, they believe some kind of higher force should produce them a magical person that is favoured by all, and then they can benevolently think about maybe supporting them or not, and they got irrationally angry when political groups they aren't parts of, don't deliver them this magical person.
Unfortunately, politics doesn't work like that.
Thats how everyone who has been arguing with me about zohran kept acting when I would tell them that im organizing for a real change in the world. Like he should just be the candidate ordained by the party if he was actually good for people.
Its nonsense, you have to organize and you have to have an actual political goal to strive towards. You go out and knock doors and have conversations and open people's minds about what politics should be.
Zohrans biggest opposition was peoples disillusionment with the two party system. They got out and voted because they rightfully saw zohran as an actual third choice, and liberals did whatever they could to convince us otherwise. They're still doing it. Trying to say that this doesn't change anything and nobody should expect this to have ripple effects. Tell them to shut up and put in the work. None of them are going to volunteer for someone like Cuomo, so they're just going to sit online and tell leftists that we cant win because organizing massive popular movements won't win elections outside NYC. It's laughable.
People are sick and tired of being told to stay home and do nothing but vote. They're demanding change. They're willing to go out and actually do something to make it happen. Weeks ago our streets were filled with people furious at the state of our country. Americans are ready to organize for a better system. Anyone who is opposed to building that movement might as well be a trump voting fascist like the rest of them. We will win, and we will keep winning.
So you don't have to spend millions on a liberal Joe Rogan, or attack trans people, or support genocide to win a race in America? God damn, that's incredible!
I'm very happy to hear this news. Genuinely one of the best news I've heard all year round. Maybe there is a sliver of hope.
I have seen articles saying that a Zohran win would force the Democratic Party to face change, and acknowledge the rising progressive movement. Let's see if they accept the changes, or they fight against it. I suspect they'll fight, but if other elections start moving left, they'll be forced to change.
The next big test will be the mid-term primaries. Hopefully, this win will encourage progressives to run, and hopefully they'll win enough primary races to become a serious threat, especially against Establishment Dems.
And I hope one of them is AOC primarying Chuck Schumer. That spineless, whining bitch has got to go. He holds a lot of the blame for the rise of MAGA.
I think they'll try to slow the progress as much as possible. They'll run candidates that like promise 50% of what the further-left candidate promises, cook up a resume that makes them look more "experienced" than the more further-left candidate, then when they win, they only do 10% of what's promised, then find excuses, while continuing to masquerade as a progressive.
I mean, if I were a greedy rich person, that's how I'll manipulate politics.
Will it force the Democratic voters to finally show up to vote? That's the main question.
My mid-20s son is energized for the first time. He's been voting all along, but he's been very unmotivated by his choices. This is the first time I've seen him excited to vote (for Zohran).
We are finally seeing progressives, especially YOUNG progressives reaching their breaking point. They are justifiably pissed off at the establishment Democrats who are complicit in the rise and dominance of MAGA, and they are determined to make a change. They fully believe that their futures depend on it, and they now understand that they will get absolutely no help from the Establishment Dems. They know it's up to them to sculpt their own future at the ballot box.
Give them candidates that they can believe in, like Zohran, and Young Progressives will come out big.
Middle age progressives have been pissed off since 2009 or so, when Congress scraped the public option from the ACA. We won a few victories (yay marriage equality) but the ghouls can lie, like they lied about keeping roe. So they will keep winning until they are met with honest people willing to change the system.
Socialism or lose.
I'm with ya.
I keep writing my reps about how much I approve of Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez, and I'll now mention Zohran too!
I live in a blue state near NY. Im tired of the Dem party not backing actual progressive candidates.
Let your reps know how much you approve of their messages! We need hope!
I don't mean to blunt your enthusiasm, but this was just a primary election, so only registered Democrats were voting here. So a much different demographic than 51 separate Presidential elections. But still, it's a sign that the voters in the city are fed up with the politics-as-usual the party is force-feeding them.
There are a lot more Democrats than Republicans there, though, so this should give him the inside track for the job, especially if Cuomo backs down from his threat to run Independant. (I think he knows that if he did that, he will never win an endorsement from any other Democrat, ever, so that may give him pause.) Adams is running as an independant, but I think the city is done with him. Curtis Sliwa is the Republican nominee, but he hasn't been relevant since the 80s and 90s, and is kind of a cartoon now.
You are way understating his odds at winning the general.
Your implicit argument that so-called "centrist" Democrats are better at winning purple states because voters all exist along a simple left to right spectrum is absolutely wrong. The people in this country are fed up and they want revolution. Republicans offered it, and Democrats didn't. The rightward lurch was just an artifact of people rationalizing their vote and conforming to the stereotype on offer.
One big excuse the Democratic establishment gave was that the world is in an anti-incombancy mood. That's a correct observation, but what is really happening is the death of neoliberalism everywhere. The one big outlier to the trend was Mexico where an aging male President successfully handed the reigns over to his protege, a younger woman. The difference is, they were progressives. Mexico is also arguably a more religiously conservative country than America.
The wonky framing of the US electorate has been the standard Democratic perspective for decades. It's what led to the income inequality we have now. It's what led to Trump, and the complete routing of Democrats in both federal and state governments. For the love of God, wake up already.
The Democrats don't win because they aren't real people, they are characters on TV that people are sick of. Neoliberalism drains the blood and passion that people want to see in leadership. Republicans have it, and Democrats don't. It's past time that changed.
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