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Trump says US forces bombed Iran nuclear sites; says 'Fordow is gone' (www.reuters.com)
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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 171 points 2 days ago

Trump wants the expanded powers of POTUS that comes with being a wartime president, as well as a wartime budget, but he needs Congress to declare war…so what does he do?

He pulls out of an agreement that restricted Iran from enriching uranium, then threatens to attack them for enriching uranium. Unexpectedly, Iran takes the high road and goes to the UN over the threats. Since Iran won’t attack, Trump gets Israel to attack Iran. Now, Trump is allowed to attack Iran under the false pretense of protecting an ally, which circumvents congressional approval. He posts a message claiming peace, knowing full well that Iran will retaliate, and Congress will subsequently declare war.

Trump gets everything he wants- expanded powers, and a big budget to hide his reckless overspending, while calling it the defense of an allied nation.

[-] Gronk@aussie.zone 89 points 2 days ago

The only thing I have a gripe with about this, Trump doesn't have the mental faculties to plan something like this, so who's really pulling the strings here?

[-] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago

The same think tank that made the project 2025 blueprint he's following.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 52 points 2 days ago

The military industrial complex, JD Vance is Peter Thiel's pet.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

Miller probably.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Unlikely, since it doesn't involve harassing and torturing immigrants.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

True true.

But you forgot that it does involve bombing Muslims.

[-] Catma@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

True true.

But you forgot that it does involve bombing ~~Muslims~~ brown people.

No need to make it as complicated as religion

[-] thagoat@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 days ago

The Netanyahu ass kissing cabal. So most republicans in politics.

[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago

Peter Thiel and friends. The guys pulling Vance's strings waiting.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Stephen Miller and the other inhuman cancers on his cabinet

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

Key point. Yes, he's the focus right now, but there's people in the background influencing him as well as people just following orders from him. Lots of guilty people, not just one.

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago

Congress "declaring war" is a relic of the past. Every conflict since WWII has been unilaterally decided by the executive.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He needs them to declare war to give him the fat budget and more executive power. I’m sure the Republican-controlled majority won’t have a problem with it. They’ve been foaming at the mouth for a hot war with Iran since the 80s.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

The budget is at wartime levels already though.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

A declaration of war comes with an additional wartime budget that will add to the national debt.

[-] thagoat@lemmy.sdf.org 83 points 2 days ago

Fuck. This. Man. Impeach him. Jail him. Deport him. I don't care just fucking get him out of politics.

[-] rhvg@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

On this matter, trump Kamala Biden Hillary they will all do the same thing.

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Edit: downvote as you like. My point was he might get jailed for many reasons, supporting Israel’s genocide and war is likely not one of them. Most recent US politician has been doing pretty much the same thing. 🤷‍♀️

[-] thagoat@lemmy.sdf.org 82 points 2 days ago

The only person in your list that started a war without congressional approval was tronald dump. So do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 56 points 2 days ago

Screeching "bOtH SiDeS" while we literally watch only one side, only 1 president do this. Wow, you're definitely not indoctrinated...

[-] j0ester@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Who is Trump Kamala Biden Hillary?

Never heard of that person before.

[-] rhvg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It’s the name of latest LLM trained from all US politician.

When spelling the word Israel, almost all US politicians look the same lol.

[-] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 days ago

Possibly. Probably even. It's still irrelevant.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

It's kind of funny to watch the downvotes and the comments though. It's like a "our hivemind is better than your hivemind" situation.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago

Or it's just blatantly stupid. That could be the reason.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Obviously. I know I'm bad with words, but what part of my comment makes you think I'm denying the stupidity?

[-] breecher@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

All of it?

[-] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

it's not even close to that

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

You're saying there is no unifying, collective sentiment on this community against anything to do with Trump or MAGA people? You're saying that people who favor Trump are welcome here? That there is even room for discussion?

I'm saying there's a definite hivemind on this community. It's objectively better than the MAGA hivemind, of course, it's barely comparable. But it's funny to see it unfold in a thread like this. In a sad kind of way though, a way where it shows that the country is entirely black and white and polarized to the brink of civil war.

[-] TheLiveFive@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

People in general will be happy if their friend gets promoted at work, but sad if they get hit by a bus. Is this a hivemind mentality? Or just the result of people having thoughts and emotions and values and ya know being people.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Your example doesn't relate to my comment at all. You're comparing apples and oranges

[-] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

go read a book

[-] SayJess 39 points 2 days ago

Iran says that they will not stop with their efforts. Trump just said that if it doesn’t stop, he will continue with his campaign. Unless one side relents, this will lead to war. Or, as the media will put it “precision strikes against a foreign adversary” Fuck the USA, may it reap what it sows.

[-] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

We're already at war.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago

The analysis before the attack was that the bunker-busters probably wouldn't make it all the way through the mountainside, so Iran could dig their way out and get everything back on line in a few months.

Did this change, or is this just another case of Trump giving the illusion of having done something, when it's all glitzy window-dressing and bullshit?

[-] mhague@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I thought talk of nukes was to make invasion seem like a good and sane alternative. That, or it was news corporations gleefully picking up some nonsense and shouting it from the rooftops hoping for some clicks.

[-] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago

Remove Trump now!

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That’ll take the spines of 6 Republicans in the House and 20 Republicans in the Senate. Actually, 21 Republican Senators. Fetterman will probably vote against removal.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

errrr, well let us see, I am skeptical these strikes were decisive, they might just make the US look worse

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago

What gives you the impression Trump cares about how the US looks to the international community?

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[-] Clasm@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 days ago

Wouldn't be the first time, if true.

[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

A real "who must go" situation.

[-] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Looking at the photos, there's barely any difference. If the bombs can go deep enough to damage the facility, shouldn't we see exposed sections?

[-] dinren@discuss.online 6 points 2 days ago

Any of these US military people involved with bombing Iran need to be imprisoned.

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