Imagine joining the Marines and ending up doing this for Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth.
The oath clearly states you'll follow legal orders of the officers above you. I would like to think when I was in the military I would refuse to follow these illegal orders. In reality I have no idea what I would do. It would be a long legal battle and potentially life ruining event to do the right thing.
Soldiers aren't lawyers either. So you'd have to be super confident in your knowledge of the law to risk discharge or imprisonment.
Yeah, for most things. But when it comes to fighting your own citizens, it feels pretty cut and dry. But again, this is easy for me to say now that I'm not wearing the uniform anymore.
I appreciate your honesty. People make it sound so easy to do the right thing but when you're in a group like the military where conformity is pretty much a matter of life and death, it's like a very hard decision to make.
The USMC has a chain of command whose job it is to know this shit. They let those Marines down and have stained the honor of the Corps.
The writing has been on the wall since at least last February or whenever it was trump replaced so much of the DoD top brass. This was always what - in his first term he tried to send troops to Oregon and the DoD correctly told him “no”. Those people are replaced with scum who don’t mind violating the Posse Comitatus Act.
There does exist a hotline to call if you're being given illegal orders, at least.
What good is it when they're doing it live on television?
The hotline is for service members if they are directly given an illegal order, not for civilians to report service members.
Right. And again, they're already carrying out those orders in front of the entire world.
Who does the complaint go to that isn't already well aware?
"Be a good little crayon eater, maggot, and do as you're told unless you want to end up in there with them." -Commanding officer, probably
I mean the oath is to defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic and then gets into obeying orders.
yeah, aside from all of the other bs (which is a lot) it's just treating the marines like a personal toy
Oh hey look more blatantly illegal shit from orange leader
orange leader
Ah hem, refer to him with the respect the office deserves.
It's Mustard Mussolini to you peasant.
This is what the NRA have been waiting for, is it not? Let's just watch them leap into action to safeguard constitutional rights against an oppressive regime.
Any minute now.
Any minute now.
Here they come! Oh, sorry it's a pigeon.
It must be soon.
Hmm...
I'm sure someday there will be consequences for all these heinous crimes. Might even be the same day my flying unicorn crashes into a supermodel and we go out to lunch and figure out cold fusion together on the back of a napkin.
Had me in the first half, NGL
"Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.
Coming soon:
"Day 3650, we'll transfer you to an appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel soon, prisoner."
They can't perform arrests. They can only temporarily detain them with zip ties and transfer them by van to the police station.
No mention of why.

Why, “specific circumstances” of course.
I read the article. He crossed a yellow taped off area of the building perimeter.
He was a vet headed into the building for some reason and the marines stopped him, detained, turned over, and he was then released.
The guy didn’t seem to phased by it. Overall I’d give it a 5/7.
"They're just doing their job," said Leao,
No, Marcos, I don't think they are.
That tattoo on that pigs knuckles; anyone got a better image? Ms13?
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Reuters images showed Marines apprehending a civilian, restraining his hands with zip ties and then handing him over to civilians from the Department of Homeland Security.
Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an individual in specific circumstances."
"Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.
…
Temporary detainment into permanent detainment.
Posse Comitatus Act
That was my first thought. Where are all the self-described Libertarians who should be losing their shit over this? They should be in the street screaming "posse comitatus!" at the tops of their lungs.
This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
Keep stirring up the infighting! Youre doing a phenomenal job at accomplishing zilch.
Exhibit A.
What would happen if someone were to detain a group of marines (with the minimal force necessary), in the wrong assumption - honest mistake - that they were about to execute illegal orders?
They're trained and equipped in a way that you are not. I do not expect this to succeed unless you've already convinced them that they want to surrender.
So it begins! Buy the ticket, take the ride! This is what you get for electing rump
Diapered States Goon Corps. Good job clowns.
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