586
submitted 1 year ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/news@lemmy.world
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 227 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine joining the Marines and ending up doing this for Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 137 points 1 year ago

The oath clearly states you'll follow legal orders of the officers above you. I would like to think when I was in the military I would refuse to follow these illegal orders. In reality I have no idea what I would do. It would be a long legal battle and potentially life ruining event to do the right thing.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 82 points 1 year ago

Soldiers aren't lawyers either. So you'd have to be super confident in your knowledge of the law to risk discharge or imprisonment.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, for most things. But when it comes to fighting your own citizens, it feels pretty cut and dry. But again, this is easy for me to say now that I'm not wearing the uniform anymore.

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

I appreciate your honesty. People make it sound so easy to do the right thing but when you're in a group like the military where conformity is pretty much a matter of life and death, it's like a very hard decision to make.

[-] Guidy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

The USMC has a chain of command whose job it is to know this shit. They let those Marines down and have stained the honor of the Corps.

The writing has been on the wall since at least last February or whenever it was trump replaced so much of the DoD top brass. This was always what - in his first term he tried to send troops to Oregon and the DoD correctly told him “no”. Those people are replaced with scum who don’t mind violating the Posse Comitatus Act.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] terabytes 16 points 1 year ago

There does exist a hotline to call if you're being given illegal orders, at least.

[-] prole 10 points 1 year ago

What good is it when they're doing it live on television?

[-] terabytes 9 points 1 year ago

The hotline is for service members if they are directly given an illegal order, not for civilians to report service members.

[-] prole 4 points 1 year ago

Right. And again, they're already carrying out those orders in front of the entire world.

Who does the complaint go to that isn't already well aware?

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

"Be a good little crayon eater, maggot, and do as you're told unless you want to end up in there with them." -Commanding officer, probably

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 1 year ago

I mean the oath is to defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic and then gets into obeying orders.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] cornmonger@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

yeah, aside from all of the other bs (which is a lot) it's just treating the marines like a personal toy

[-] Guy6758@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago

Oh hey look more blatantly illegal shit from orange leader

[-] aramova@infosec.pub 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

orange leader

Ah hem, refer to him with the respect the office deserves.

It's Mustard Mussolini to you peasant.

[-] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

Cheeto Benito.

[-] Steve@communick.news 5 points 1 year ago

I like to simply call him Rump

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] Naich@lemmings.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is what the NRA have been waiting for, is it not? Let's just watch them leap into action to safeguard constitutional rights against an oppressive regime.

Any minute now.

Any minute now.

Here they come! Oh, sorry it's a pigeon.

It must be soon.

Hmm...

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I'm sure someday there will be consequences for all these heinous crimes. Might even be the same day my flying unicorn crashes into a supermodel and we go out to lunch and figure out cold fusion together on the back of a napkin.

[-] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Had me in the first half, NGL

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

"Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

Coming soon:

"Day 3650, we'll transfer you to an appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel soon, prisoner."

[-] m4xie@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They can't perform arrests. They can only temporarily detain them with zip ties and transfer them by van to the police station.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago
[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Why, “specific circumstances” of course.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I read the article. He crossed a yellow taped off area of the building perimeter.

He was a vet headed into the building for some reason and the marines stopped him, detained, turned over, and he was then released.

The guy didn’t seem to phased by it. Overall I’d give it a 5/7.

[-] who@feddit.org 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"They're just doing their job," said Leao,

No, Marcos, I don't think they are.

[-] _wizard@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

That tattoo on that pigs knuckles; anyone got a better image? Ms13?

[-] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 year ago

I feel SO free right now. :P

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Reuters images showed Marines apprehending a civilian, restraining his hands with zip ties and then handing him over to civilians from the Department of Homeland Security.

Asked about the incident, the U.S. military's Northern Command spokesperson said active duty forces "may temporarily detain an individual in specific circumstances."

"Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individual(s) can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement personnel," a spokesperson said.

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Temporary detainment into permanent detainment.

[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago
[-] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

That was my first thought. Where are all the self-described Libertarians who should be losing their shit over this? They should be in the street screaming "posse comitatus!" at the tops of their lungs.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

[-] Val 3 points 1 year ago

Keep stirring up the infighting! Youre doing a phenomenal job at accomplishing zilch.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[-] wulrus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

What would happen if someone were to detain a group of marines (with the minimal force necessary), in the wrong assumption - honest mistake - that they were about to execute illegal orders?

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

They're trained and equipped in a way that you are not. I do not expect this to succeed unless you've already convinced them that they want to surrender.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

So it begins! Buy the ticket, take the ride! This is what you get for electing rump

[-] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Diapered States Goon Corps. Good job clowns.

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2025
586 points (100.0% liked)

News

38954 readers
1421 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious biased sources will be removed at the mods’ discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted separately but not to the post body. Sources may be checked for reliability using Wikipedia, MBFC, AdFontes, GroundNews, etc.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Clickbait titles may be removed.


Posts which titles don’t match the source may be removed. If the site changed their headline, we may ask you to update the post title. Clickbait titles use hyperbolic language and do not accurately describe the article content. When necessary, post titles may be edited, clearly marked with [brackets], but may never be used to editorialize or comment on the content.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials, videos, press releases, or celebrity gossip will be allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis. Mods may use discretion to pre-approve videos or press releases from highly credible sources that provide unique, newsworthy content not available or possible in another format.


7. No duplicate posts.


If an article has already been posted, it will be removed. Different articles reporting on the same subject are permitted. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners or news aggregators.


All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS