I meant to just ban them from the vegan community on db0. I will reverse this.

Not really.

You can make your own instance and moderate it better. You can split up power however you want.

lemmy fixes admin abuse, not mod abuse.

Yeah, the problem of modreach is definitely not a solved problem. The other problem, of all discourse being directly controllable from on high by a profit-driven company, however, is solved by lemmy. I believe that was the original issue lemmy was meant to handle. And that problem does seem to be solved. We'll just have to handle the problem of public official reach the way we normally would.

The ban across multiple communities is not intentional. I just meant to ban them from !vegan@lemmy.dbzer0.com. I was not used to Tesseract's ui. But even that was definitely jumping the gun upon rereading the joke.

PETA would send the fish to a kill shelter

Lemmy is the most black and white community I've encountered. Nuance is completely fucking lost here and god help you if you try to argue against the prevailing wind.

I've seen that said about all online spaces. The reality is that communication is harder than people think. Speakers and writers think their intentions are obviously jovial. Listeners and readers think their intentions were obviously malicious. Tale as old as time.

Just from personal experience: there seems to be an undercurrent of opinion that sarcasm and irony lead us into narcissistic dystopia fast.

As witnessed by the many ironic Redditches that turned bloody fast: There are just too many Psychopaths willing to take over and use it to lure the apparently plentiful masses of stupid people in (Biden-Bro and The-Donald come to mind).

I know certainly myself have tried to make this place less toxic by beeing less sarcastic. It's not about getting it and more of a conscious choice for me. As a side effect, I feel less bitter or disconnected from my life, so that is a net win.

Do I miss beeing an ironic, sarcastic ass sometimes? Absolutely. But it is not the good place I want to hang out at.

They also walked that back a bit after.

It's OK Sunshine, JayDee's made out of styrofoam.

Sunshine has a history of power tripping, and is able to avoid attention for it by using alts. As Beaver, they put the lemmy.world vegan community in trouble with admins over that vegan cat food drama, then later banned respected members of the community for "downvoting vegan comments". They were ostensibly de-modded when another mod spoke up, but if memory serves they actually still had their Sunshine alt on the mod list months later.

That is golden 😂