The funniest thing is that Nintendo buyers are not even part of this conversation LMAO 🤣
In a sense, this is also the point. They are different devices targeting different markets.
I loved my steam deck, but it was too chunky for me and certainly for my kid.
My compromise is Anbernic type devices. Long battery life, better form factor, lots of ported games too.
There is a reason why i call all these handheld gaming pcs as decks or gaming decks.
...ok? Cool you're here on Lemmy, I guess, GabeN. Welcome!
Tim Sweeny! Is that you!?
It's very likely that the Switch 2 will far outsell all other PC handhelds combined. And that is very much a loss. Not just to Valve, not just to PC gamers, but to everyone.
You must lived an incredibly charmed and comfortable life.
...well that's an interesting (bad) presumption.
Did I miss a sarcasm tag, or are you seriously this histrionic about the biggest and one of the oldest names in video games outselling a niche product? Because it doesn't matter to almost anyone, even Valve. Multiple things/people can find success at the same time. It's not zero sum.
I honestly don't even know what you're trying to say.
Has either company "lost" anything? They both seems to be raking in money quite healthily.
I'll emulate Nintendo games till the day I die because fuck Nintendo and their greed.
It's always morally acceptable to pirate Nintendo games.
I won't even pirate their games
What I like about the deck is I bought it and I instantly already owned >1000 games for it where a good majority of those are playable out of the box.
So ya, I ain't paying $120 CAD per game. Fuck that.
Also my controllers basically all work for it so I don't need to buy these overpriced joycons again for a new system.
Already have webcams if I cared for a silly camera that streams at 2FPS.
It's unfortunate that theres been a lot more attention for optimization from some developers for the switch 2 though, not much we can do about that. Some games I own the deck is screaming and barely handling it and apparently the switch 2 runs it no problem.
Console wars stopped being cool years ago. Everyone has their preferences and favorites, no need to shit on someone's fun because you think yours is better.
Its unfair to call it a "console war" when one is a classic locked down console and another is a general handheld computer. This also means there are bigger societal stakes in this argument than just "which corporate flavor you like more" because one empowers people and the other does the exact opposite.
So no, "console wars" here are very much cool.
Competition is good. If the Switch didn't exist then I don't think we would've gotten the Steam Deck.
If the Switch didn't exist then I don't think we would've gotten the Steam Deck.
or we would have earlier and more of it? I'm not sure how are you basing your hipothesis is but to assume that handheld market with this crazy demand would just be there unfulfilled is kinda silly. Switch didn't event some magic technology that was not available before - it just took the market.
You're contradicting yourself. If you believe the Steam Deck exists purely independently from the Switch and that we would've had the Steam Deck before the Switch if the Switch never existed, but we didn't, it came after.
And no, I don't think it invented some sort of magic technology, obviously I don't think that. I'm saying the Steam Deck was good competition for the Switch in the portable/docked market (whatever we wanna call those).
Correlation vs causation much? Not sure what to tell you.
You're saying if we didn't have the Switch we would've had the Steam Deck earlier but you're also saying the Steam Deck is something totally independent of the Switch. But if it was totally independent, why do you think it would've come earlier if the Switch didn't exist? That's why I'm saying you're contradicting yourself.
I said it might have come earlier. You fundamentally don't understand correlation vs causation and getting angry with me dude. Seriously go read a book or something this is silly.
You did not say might you said it would.
PC G*mers aren't known for being with the times.
Steam Deck is the winner, They don't even advertise.
I've generally seen purchasing a Steam Deck as an informed decision. But most people are very nostalgic (can't blame them, SNES to Wii Zeldas and Metroids were amazing) and have uncontrollable FOMO, which Nintendo keeps on milking even when their software and hardware is noticeably much worse than it's competitors'. If anyone also wants to know how Nintendo currently uses the money they earn, here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n025Gxn5GEM No wonder they're less worried about wasting money on legal battles. No trace of the good old Nintendo.
This is such a wild take. « I buy the steam deck because I am informed and smart, they buy the switch 2 because they’re nostalgic impulsive morons ».
Has it ever occurred to you that not everybody is you, and people have different tastes ? Some gamers want to play the latest COD, others are Final Fantasy super fan, and others want to play Zelda and Mario. Most people even just play on a smartphone! (Disgusting, I know).
Your lack of basic awareness of what an individual is is astonishing. May I never meet and have to talk to someone like you again.
There are millions upon millions of Mario, Link, and Pokemon fans.
There are not millions and millions of... what's the killer Steam Deck game again? Oh, right, there isn't one.
If Valve came out with Half Life 3, made it Steam exclusive and a pack in with the Deck, then it would start putting up Nintendo numbers.
You're right, the best part of PC gaming is that it's always inclusive, never exclusive. Thanks for the reminder
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