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Is windows even an os anymore? (sub.wetshaving.social)
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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 77 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

By now it's a sloperating system full of slopvertisement and slopware

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

sloperating system

Also, with the foisted AI integration, this is just a brilliant way to describe things right now.

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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

As a Linux person forced to use OneDrive at work, OneDrive sucks in almost every capacity. Why would I pay MS for a service that fails at its core objectives?

[-] bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago

Name two capacities that it fails in

[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It moves your library locations when you install it, so virtually everything that uses a Users\{Username}\{file path} instead of the library’s referenced location will break. Oblivion Remastered players recently encountered this, because the game defaults to saving in a hard path instead of a referenced path. If you have OneDrive installed, the Documents folder exists at Users\{Username}\OneDrive\Documents. But the game defaults to saving in Users\{Username}\Documents. But Steam uses the referenced library location. So when Steam tries to back up your saves to the cloud, it finds an empty saves folder.

Second, it defaults to backing up your desktop. Likely because many users just default to saving everything to their desktop. Which means you end up with a bunch of broken/duplicate shortcuts on each subsequent machine you use, because they all get cloud-imported from other computers.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The moving of libraries is what really irks me. I refuse to install it. Fucking pissed me off when lots of shit broke. Had to use junctions to fix it.

ALSO. When coding with powershell and installing modules in user context... It throws them in documents. Which gets usurped my OneDrive.

So now my powershell modules freak out due to being locked/syncing.

WHY MICROSOFT??

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[-] originaltnavn@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

Sometimes it randomly stops synchronizing without telling me, and I need to physically move between machines and locations to get everything back online again. Network issues can happen to any vendor, but why is there no notification for days at a time about it?

Somewhat related, it happens that overdrive fails to read timestamps and deletes my work because another computer without it comes online. That's fairly unacceptable from a synchronization tool that demands to replace my hard drive.

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[-] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 month ago

Fool, it's not "your" computer, it's Microsoft's. You shall use it the way they deem best for you.

[-] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Sounds just like Apple.

[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 31 points 1 month ago

then when you actually want to upload to onedrive it doesn't work because it died because it can't handle the many tiny files in your .venv folder

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 31 points 1 month ago

Alternatively it's already full because steam workshop mods obviously need to be backed up in my personal cloud

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

My 1.2gb of Fallout 4 saves take priority

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[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

OneDrive is a big part of why I finally made the switch.

[-] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

For me, it's going to be the AI injected into the body without consent.

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[-] Igilq@szmer.info 27 points 1 month ago

And if you delete onedrive with stuff in it, you lose access to saved files so windows can’t be considered os

[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Who has actually encountered this? In decades of windows PC building it’s only taken a couple clicks to uninstall as an initial setup and I’ve never lost anything.

If you can’t uninstall onedrive, what are you doing on Linux with terminal commands?

[-] spooky2092 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Who has actually encountered this?

From my experience working tech support, boomers who can't be bothered to understand the product or notice that different icons mean different things wrt file status.

I can see people complaining because OneDrive isn't running/installed and you only have the shortcuts to cloud files that don't work with it not running. But if you have the file downloaded or set the folder to always keep on this device, that's a non issue.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

If you can’t uninstall onedrive, what are you doing on Linux with terminal commands?

Using the most commonly suggested command: rm -fr /*

Then you also lose access to saved files.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

The French language pack should always be uninstalled. Every cool Linux user knows that.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

Welcome to discussions about Windows on Lemmy. Rather than learning how to properly use Windows, a lot of people around here will blame operator error on the OS and just jump ship to Linux at the first stumbling block. They'll claim something incredibly simple to work around simply isn't possible.

If you frequent computer discussion around here you'll find yourself asking this a lot: "If you couldn't handle [complicated to access but easy to do Windows thing], how in the hell are you managing Linux?"

And a lot of the most outspoken against Windows here legitimately have not used it in over five years, yet speak as if they are up to date experts.


Relatedly: 99% of the "The sky is falling! Microsoft adds more ads to Windows!" articles thrown around on Lemmy are shit that is managed by ONE singular Settings menu option for all of them that (despite everyone's insistence to the contrary) does NOT get silently reset during updates. But you'll see everyone talking about the ads like they're completely unavoidable and re-enable themselves if you press spacebar too hard.


Linux is awesome, 99% of the issues to work around in Windows simply shouldn't exist in the first place, and don't there.

But it's still far from a smooth experience for non-technical users.

That said, for people who don't want to learn how something works and just want it to work, there's a compelling argument that copying and pasting random terminal lines off the internet is faster than trying to follow instructions guiding you through an unfamiliar UI. It's more opaque as what it's doing, and a lot easier to just fuck your install, but it can appear like less work in the short term.

For people open to learn though, I maintain that truly learning how to manage your linux distro install (instead of just being a copy paste warrior) is about as difficult as learning how to manage a Windows install properly.

[-] ftbd@feddit.org 21 points 1 month ago

Well, isn't their whole sales pitch essentially that windows is super easy, everything has a GUI and you don't have to use the sCaRy TerMiNal? If you then have to change some cryptic registry entries to disable behavior that shouldn't be enabled in the first place, the argument for using it just collapses. It shouldn't be hard to uninstall the default browser, but somehow microsoft manages to make it hard

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[-] b_tr3e@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago

People certainly enjoy to learn how things work, even on the console. They don't enjoy working around rocks a hostile OS throws in their way to line Microshit's pockets. Because it is a lost battle, knowing your workaround will only work for so long until Microsoft will find a better way to sabotage you on your own computer. You need to be completely insane to enjoy this shitl. And a complete asshole to comment based on assumptions and allegations like this in an arrogant tone that tries to hide the hollow incompetence that's behind it.

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[-] dingus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I just turned off and uninstalled One Drive when I got Windows 11 and have had zero issues

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 month ago

I just turned off and uninstalled windows when I got Windows 8 and have had zero issues.

I thought everyone turned it off after setting up windows

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[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago

Am I the only person in the world that managed to delete the shit off of windows that I didn't want and never have it come back?

Even after updates?

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

No, the rest of us just stopped responding to these threads. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it think.

The kinds of people who repost this meme over and over again, are the kinds of people who don't do updates, and the reason why updates are automatic by default on Windows. They don't know nor care to know what is going on with their os, they just have an idea of what they expect will happen, and when something different happens, they complain and post memes about it.

Of course, not every single person is like that, there are and always will be exceptions

The hard truth is that most people don't know and don't care what's running on their computer until it gets in their way.

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[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Wait, people have one drive installed?

[-] weird@sub.wetshaving.social 15 points 1 month ago
[-] Trollception@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Yea I've found that if you take the experiences you have on Lemmy and then just invert it, then it will give you a more accurate estimation of reality.

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[-] Trollception@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yea. I use it daily so I can share files between my PCs without any thought.

[-] TeddE@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you (or anyone reading this) are ever looking to decloud, you can set up Syncthing in a OneDrive-like setup

  1. Create a Syncthing share between your computers at %userprofile%\Syncthing
    C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing
    and verify the share works between windows systems.

  2. Create the shared system folders in it: %userprofile%\Syncthing[library folder]
    C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Desktop C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Documents C:\Users\Joe\Syncthing\Pictures

  3. Open explorer, go to [My Computer/This PC], right-click on the appropriate system folder (Windows has system folders for: 3D Objects, Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Videos), go to Properties (under 'more' for Win11), select Location, and either manually enter or use the move button to select the new location. On pressing apply, you can also use the prompt to move the folder contents between locations (yes on the first PC, but manual for others if you might clobber files)

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[-] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

You can use Samba, its built into windows to locally share a file to another conputer ovet LAN

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

Software controlled by a 3rd party is an agent of that 3rd party.

[-] andybytes@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago

Windows is the virus

[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Windows has always failed to include a libre software license text file. We have never controlled it, anti-libre software.

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Might be easier to print everything out and buy a filling cabinet

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

As long as I keep my printer ink subscription current, this works great.

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[-] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Well, at least it's not ChromeOS. Yet.

[-] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Here we go again... It is in your documents folder, on your own computer, that is in your house. It is also monitored by the cloud, just like your phone; no complaints there. Why are people so stupid that they don't realize this?

[-] grahamja@reddthat.com 12 points 1 month ago

Because no one wants their OS constantly scraping every file on their computer computer to find better ways to exploit you under the guise of "oh we are just backing this up to the cloud for you." We paid for software, stop using users as a data source to sell to marketers. I can back up data to my NAS like an adult.

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