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[-] Izzy@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago

I've been seeing this a lot lately. Lots of bandwagoning going on. It is what it is though. People are fallible and often just follow the herd instead of thinking.

[-] BeefDaddySupreme@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Like Reddit, Lemmy is full of hive mind individuals who like to confirm their bias.

[-] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online 13 points 1 year ago

Most people are emotional and when challenged find it easier to justify their position rather than consider that they are wrong. So yeah, people will argue shit just to argue it.

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[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Reddit had a lot of problems. Some of them were caused by having people as admins. Some were caused by having people as mods. Some were caused by having people as users.

Lemmy also has people as admins, mods, and users, so it will see many of the same problems.

Though Lemmy won't necessarily turn into Reddit because it's designed to have competition among the admins, so they are less likely to get a sense of "they don't have a choice even if they don't like what we're doing".

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[-] atticus88th@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

A circlejerk community where facts are thrown out the window. Doesnt matter where its hosted, social media just going to keep doing what its doing.

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[-] sweafa@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 1 year ago

square feet must look funny

[-] Steve@communick.news 42 points 1 year ago

I can only imagine they meant 60% of the front view of the house. Otherwise that just seems insane.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 36 points 1 year ago

If they add in the driveway the area would probably be about the same as the house.

If we also add in the necessary roads and parking lots,it is pretty obvious that cars are creating a self-induced demand.

We need to have cars because we need to drive around space for cars.

[-] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Still beats the space and maintenance needs of a horse and buggy.

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[-] blazera@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago
[-] MrMusAddict@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Wow, what an awe-inspiring counter-example, lol

[-] Rognaut@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Am I not supposed to like that? Cause I really like that house design. Garage for days.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

That looks amazing. I’d actually have space to work on a project car, plus store my daily, as well as extra storage, probably a server rack and a whole bunch of other stuff. One of the things I notice most about living in an apartment vs my childhood home is how much storage space we had in our garage.

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[-] AtomfriedMegaforce@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Downvoting it just for using imperial units✊

[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Larger garages are more environmentally friendly. My garage is huge compared to my house. It has 2 cars, a laundry, and all of the stuff I don't use every day.

This is an area that is not heated or cooled. By having all the storage in the garage, I can get by with less living space.

Garages are cheaper per square metre than rooms, so you save money there too.

You get all the stuff into the same size house, but with less building materials, less heating and cooling costs, and less clutter in your house.

[-] Asifall@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Wouldn’t it be more environmentally friendly to store your cars outside and not have a garage?

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

No, because it gets dirty and damaged more often meaning you need to clean and repair it more often.

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[-] such_lettuce7970@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago
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[-] SwedishFool@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Fuckcars is just a cult anyway, they go REEEE at any suggestion that cars are a necessity for many people, and that no busses nor bikes will ever compensate for it.

[-] Disk@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've followed the FuckCars community for a while (started on reddit). Being one of them car fuckers myself I would disagree. There certainly are people there whose thought process doesn't go much further than car = bad, but boiling the whole community down to that does a disservice to their more important points. I think most people there aren't so much advocating for less cars as much as they are advocating for policy and societal change toward a world where we aren't so reliant on cars. Obviously for a massive chunk of the world population (especially in North America) cars are a necessity like you said, but do they need to be? Wouldn't we all be better off if the world was less car dependent? We aren't saying that there should be no more cars, just that we shouldn't continue to design our cities in such a way that you need a car to live.

If you are interested in more about where the fuckcars comunity is coming from I would recommend checking out the youtube channel Not Just Bikes. All of his videos are great but I think this one is a good intro to the channel. I also like this one because it outlines a lot of the specific "first step" type things that could be much better (most applicable to north america). Also, his Strong Towns Video Series is really good if you have the time.

(here are a couple more because I can't help myself: Why it sucks to grow up in car-centric cities, How American cities are ponzie schemes, and His video about Stroads)

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[-] glassware@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Weird how it's literally impossible to ever live without something no one had 100 years ago

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[-] LazyBane@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

As a European, its funny watching these guys talk about "Europe" as this pure implementation of their motorphobic utopia.

A lot of us still drive daily yanks!

[-] Enkrod@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Still. I live near Mannheim, out of the 8 people in my circle of close friends, 4 either outright do not own a car or share a car with their spouses, because their households can make do with one or less cars. They can absolutely make do with walking, bikes, tram, bus and train for everything in their daily lives. In many american cities of the same size, that would simply not be an option.

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[-] atticus88th@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Some of them are raging right now at the idea that not everyone who hates cars wants to live in an apartment.

Its like liberals screaming when they findout you can be a liberal and a gun owner.

Or conservatives when you express socialistic rights while also limiting government.

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[-] Omgarm@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

When you accidentally consider your hyperbole to be factual.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

This just gets worse when you use what developers call a two car garage now. 24x24 would be awesome, it's more like 18x20 now despite bigger cars.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 19 points 1 year ago

We are in that bucket and in this stupid country there aren't many smaller cars anymore. We're looking for a decent EV that is small and would fit in our garage. I think we have like, 2 options. Everything out there is some crossover SUV bullshit. I don't want a giant car, I just want something smaller and comfortable for 2 people.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm the blocked out poster in this.

You keep assuming that the living space is ~1500sq/ft for some reason; the houses I am talking about that are like this are not even half that size, but have 2 or even 3 car garages attached to them. Most of these are living quarters for field workers on the dairies and not even built to code.

Imagine a single 10x10 bedroom that has a kitchenette in it, and a room big enough to fit a shower, toilet and sink, attached to a 2 or sometimes even 3 car garage bay. That's what I see around here.

[-] MrMusAddict@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, I'm not going to ask you to doxx yourself, but I'm extremely curious to know where you're seeing these homes that are, as you describe them, like 150 SqFt of livable area (10x10 studio + 5x8 bathroom) with an attached 3 car garage.

Edit: And to clarify, the 1500 was pulled out of an anecdotal average. My observations while shopping for homes here in the US have been; 2 bed / 1 bath, could be as small as 800 SqFt, but it's cramped. Whereas in middle-class suburbia, it's not uncommon to see 2500+ SqFt homes.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago

I'm in a somewhat rural part of the central valley in California. Lotta dairy farms out here, and they have their own living spaces for the workers that are just absolute shitholes.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I think you're an unreasonable exception

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[-] Just_Pizza_Crust@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This has the issue of always assuming a household will always live in the most space efficient way possible (2 adults in 1 bedroom with no children or others).

Assume you need 2 bedrooms (2 adults and 1 child): A 800-1,000 sq ft home in the USA is somewhere close to the 10th percentile in terms of size, so going down to ≤750 sq ft puts you near the absolute smallest 2 bedroom houses available.

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[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Blame the system. Rating system was a good idea to encourage community self-moderation. But,most people treat upvotes/downvotes as likes/dislikes, even when specifically asked to use them differently. And, because of that, places with rating systems inevitably boil down to circlejerking, infobubbles, and tribalism. Too bad the only alternatives are spamholes, chaotic messes with power-tripping moderators, and AI blackboxes designed to control your mind.

[-] lugal@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

AI blackboxes designed to control your mind.

They aren't designed to control your mind but to make money. The mind thing is a side effect.

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[-] gamer@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This seems very unhealthy. Maybe go take a stroll around the block?

Edit: I’m referring to OP or whoever it was that made this image

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

I, for one, welcome quality posts

[-] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I love how lemmy is divided but coexisting.

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[-] Just_Pizza_Crust@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

How exactly is doing the math unhealthy? This is like 60 seconds of math and a few minutes of graphics at most.

I'd rather have someone doing the math and posting it than people becoming misinformed on an important political topic. I think that's what OP was after.

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[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I applaud your bitterness. Bravo!

[-] VonTum@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

It's an island! Who needs a car on an island? At least on one as small as this one.

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[-] Odo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago
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