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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 207 points 1 month ago

Just another reason to wait long after release to buy a game. Denuvo charges games companies to administer the DRM infrastructure and most developers will strip it out of their games after it's been out for a while.

Buying games on launch is one of the most anti-customer experiences you can get. And that's saying something in our wonderful capitalist economy

[-] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 154 points 1 month ago

Buying a game post-launch:

  • Better prices; often on sale.
  • Fixed and patched up.
  • Extra content often included.
  • DRM often removed.

No brainer, imo.

[-] Agrivar@lemmy.world 61 points 4 weeks ago

You forgot a bonus point:

  • Hardware requirements are now easier/cheaper to meet/exceed.
[-] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 19 points 4 weeks ago

Preordering games: I need this digital product before jt goes up in price or runs out of copies!

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[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago

Pirating single player games is unfortunately the way to go, considering you BUY a single player game and STILL get fucked on it.

[-] CybranM@feddit.nu 20 points 1 month ago

Disagree, like yesman (lol) said it's best to wait. I'm not that worried about playing games day one but I still want to sort the Devs, after they've patched out the bugs and removed DRM preferably

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If only buying games actually supported devs anymore. Devs seem to get fired for any reason nowadays.

Bad game? Fired. Good game? Also fired. Popular game that people loved? Believe it or not, also fired. Develop a game only for the company to change direction and the game gets cancelled? Absolutely fired.

You'd think these publishers would value talent as much as their intellectual property but they seem to not care anymore for either.

[-] pycorax@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

Plenty of singleplayer games are from indies, those more or less support the developer.

[-] Sebastrion@leminal.space 16 points 4 weeks ago

I'm sure most pirates don't sit here and want a crack for a 10-20€ Indie Game. But a 80€ Game (sometimes even with additional microtransaktions like skins etc.) Yeah I see that.

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[-] piefood@feddit.online 30 points 4 weeks ago

Patient gamers represent! The older I get, the less I care about FOMO. The less I care about FOMO, the happier I am. It's a beautiful cycle.

/me goes back to playing snes games on an emulator

[-] JayGray91@piefed.social 16 points 4 weeks ago

A lot of things in life are improved once you excise the FOMO mind cancer.

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[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 115 points 1 month ago

Refund and wait for a crack. Fuck Denuvo and fuck Bethesda for using them

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[-] warm@kbin.earth 86 points 1 month ago

You get what you pay for. You buy denuvo, you get denuvo.

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 85 points 4 weeks ago

Yet more evidence that the smartest thing you can do if the game comes from a AAA studio is hold off on buying it for 6-12 months.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 46 points 4 weeks ago

If the game comes with Denuvo, never, ever buy it.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

I think the point is that they often eventually remove Denuvo and it becomes a moot point.

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[-] VeganCheesecake 74 points 4 weeks ago

Earlier this year, I got a game I liked on steam. Pretty much 3d Rimworld. After playing for 20 hours over a few weeks, I sporadically started getting errors about me having "no hardware activations" left for the game, and how I should wait 24 hours. I have never installed it on any other machine.

It is so very silly that a pirated copy would be the more seamless experience.

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[-] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 4 weeks ago
[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 weeks ago

I remember when their DRM was just telling you that you'd go to HELL if you pirated it.

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 weeks ago
[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 51 points 4 weeks ago

All this drm nonsense ever does is punishes the paying customers and maybe delays cracked version by a few days, but fucking pencil pushers still put it into everything.

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[-] missingno@fedia.io 43 points 1 month ago

This is why native support still matters. Anything not supported can pull the rug out from under you at any time.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago

Except for when glibc updates and breaks games with native support (but not the ones running through a compatibility layer). Although that definitely happens way less than devs purposefully pushing changes that break on Linux.

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[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 42 points 4 weeks ago

you aren't buying doom because it has denuvo. im not buying doom because i am boycotting microsoft products. we are probably a little similar

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[-] alehel@lemmy.zip 39 points 4 weeks ago

I never buy/install games with Denuvo. Guess it will be a while before I'm playing this.

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[-] giacomo@lemm.ee 38 points 1 month ago

anti-consumer feature is anti-consumer. more news at 11

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 37 points 4 weeks ago

Fuck Microsoft. They enshittify everything and they support a genocide by helping to select targets to murder. No game is worth supporting this.

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[-] MummysLittleBloodSlut 35 points 4 weeks ago

Denuvo identifies a user opening a game with multiple versions of Proton as multiple machines. It thinks that's piracy and locks the user out of the game

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 30 points 1 month ago

Looks like sailing is back on the menu, boys!

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[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 29 points 4 weeks ago
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[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 29 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Aside from screwing Linux users, they're also screwing AMD users with forced ray-tracing + broken FSR, and I'd imagine there's also a lot of overlap there.

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[-] mo_lave@reddthat.com 27 points 4 weeks ago

Only way for this to change is to vote with your (virtual) feet and wallet and "cancel" games that have DRM, in my opinion.

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[-] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago

That probably explains all of the crashes reported by windows users too. ID Software what happened? You were supposed to be the chosen one.

[-] Turturtley@aussie.zone 61 points 4 weeks ago

Owned by zenimax, owned by microsoft. Same owners of activision blizzard. Shafted Mick Gordon. So this is kinda 100% as expected.

[-] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 13 points 4 weeks ago

You must really fucking hate composers or not play games if you think ID is a contender for the best game studio.

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[-] Kraiden@kbin.earth 21 points 1 month ago

I get paid today and was gonna pick this up tonight... Guess it's back to Oblivion then!

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[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 21 points 4 weeks ago

Man, they're taking the "dark ages" part seriously.

[-] vortexal@sopuli.xyz 20 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Seeing this pains me, especially considering Id Software's history with Linux. Prior to being bought by Bethesda, most of Id's games had official native Linux ports. Even Doom 3 had a native Linux port, it doesn't seem to work anymore but there are source ports like Dhewm3 available for it.

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[-] andybytes@programming.dev 19 points 4 weeks ago

Didn't fall for it, even when they whisper sweet little lies in my ear, I just say to myself, I quit gaming. I'm done. If I can't own it, I ain't playing it. And now I just joined the class war. Because you know, there is no war but the class war.

[-] agelord@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

I can't own it, I'm pirating it.

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[-] User79185@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 4 weeks ago

Meanwhile, DRM-free Doom (2016) is here, it also runs quite good >>> https://www.gog.com/en/game/doom_2016

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[-] IEatDaGoat@lemm.ee 13 points 4 weeks ago

Eh 70 dollars for 10 hours of repetitive gameplay is bad value anyway.

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[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Well cool, now I know not to pick up the game yet.

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