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Senator Admits "Kids Online Safety Act" Will Target Trans Content Online.::The lead sponsor of the "Kids Online Safety Act," otherwise known as KOSA, has stated over the weekend that it will be used to "protect minor children from the transgender in our culture."

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[-] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 112 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Before you know it, it will be almost impossible to browse the internet normally without getting a visit from the feds for some bs reason. Guess we'll all be using the dark net for everything.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 54 points 1 year ago

Thus driving people to the place where CSAM is.

[-] uriel238 24 points 1 year ago

As it always was. The usenet alt.* address set was actually for Anarchists, Lunatics and Terrorists. The public will respond to internet prohibition the way it responded to alcohol prohibition (or abortion prohibition, or speeding prohibition, etc.) And to get technology to cover our tracks, yes, we'll be making friends with terrorists, pirates and even collectors of CSAM and less accepted porn. Sellers of state secrets, too.

However, these unsavory elements have way more in common with the regular public than politicians who want to persecute undesirables to further their careers, or law enforcement officers who are eager for any excuse to kill a poor person.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

The usenet alt.* address set was actually for Anarchists, Lunatics and Terrorists.

No, that was just a dumb joke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.*_hierarchy

[-] uriel238 4 points 1 year ago

Curiously, when I learned of it it was a dumb joke that was the actual name of the alt. hierarchy, and I was corrected when I initially assumed it meant alternative.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are enough people who believe the joke that I can't assume it's just a joke. And Wikipedia used to say differently than it does today.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

And/or the invention of the darkernet

[-] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Darkernet implies a darkestnet.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Now you’re gettin’ it!

[-] Smacks@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago

If a law says it's "for the kids" It 100% contains some of the most intrusive, dictatorial legislation known to man

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, wait. So they misuse a sprawling censorship law for things they don't like from the start?!

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Why is protecting children repeatedly so stupid and evil?

Can we have a Demise of Kids Act which makes those wooden rail sets cheaper?

[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Protecting the children is an excuse

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 36 points 1 year ago

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: get parents off their lazy asses and watch over your kid and make sure they are staying safe online.

I'm not even all that old, but growing up in the 90s/00s, we had access to computers at school, and if we were lucky, we had cold computers (computers not connected to the internet) for use for things like games or word processors. We had a family machine that my parents let us use, but generally made sure we only visited sites meant for kids.

If you have kids under 13, monitor them when they use the internet. As they get older, give them a bit more leeway, but explain why porn isn't great for your mental health. (This includes talking about sex and sexuality of course), how to spot misinformation and why you need to confirm sketchy info, and of course, stranger danger and not getting yourself into bad situations, which includes apps with dark systems and gambling in addition to all the normal dangerous stuff.

You do that, and you avoid most of the problems. The internet will never be a "safe space" for kids the same way a highway never will be a safe space either, despite it facilitating the transfer of goods, services, and transportation. And yet we all will have to learn to use it and how to make the safest possible choices on it while following the written and unwritten rules of the road.

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but explain why porn isn't great for your mental health

What, it isn't?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I don't know if that part is true, but watching porn as a teen can give you some very unrealistic ideas about sex. Kids will watch porn whether people like it or not, so they need to know that porn is fantasy, not reality.

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not a smart man by any stretch, but I always assumed growing up that it was just fantasy, so never expected those same things to happen in a real situation with a significant other. I'm surprised people took it so literally, but I can't say I'm 100% shocked either.

[-] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Watching porn 24/7 isn’t great for your mental health.

And watching too much porn can mess with body image and normalize sexual violence, because younger people are looking for any clue as to how the world works and have a harder time separating fantasy and reality than adults.

I like porn, but I don’t think it’s healthy for young teens. Just like weed.

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago

too much

Here's the problem.

[-] Papergeist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yea, what the fuck?!? Everything in moderation.

[-] YourAvgMortal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Watching over your children sounds like a lot of effort. Big Brother can do it for me, and they can remove some of the content I don’t like to see with those bills. I’m on their side so surely it wont affect me negatively.

It has never been about keeping kids safe. These are the same people undermining schools, CPS and the adoption system.

[-] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

This should go in news or politics. Not technology

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago

How does this not involve technology?

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago

It definitely fits into both as the law itself will redefine how we are allowed to use our technology and the political effect it has on the country as a whole.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

"there are two genders: political and men"

[-] skymtf 39 points 1 year ago

Ugh I would down vote if my instance supported, tired of these trans people are political shit. And KOSA is about tech but trans people are PoLiTiCaL

[-] PillowTalk420@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

They're trying to make laws to hurt trans people, and it's a hot issue among the populace... That is the very definition of political.

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That doesn't mean it's any less tech for it, it's going to affect the whole landscape of the internet.

Technology can't be so easily detached from politics. It's not just about components and code, it's also about how it's used and what are the rules around it. There is a lot of politics even around something as basic as copying a file.

[-] PillowTalk420@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't mean to imply it's not also concerning tech. I think it would fit in both spheres. Just commenting on the whole "stop making trans people political" notion, like the issue isn't and hasn't been political the entire time.

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ah, I see. That's a complicated matter. Ultimately everything that relates to people's lives is political, but many people don't even think of matters as political unless they are having issues regarding their rights.

I don't think that response is accurate, but it's a way to convey that trans people's rights should be a given, just as cis people's rights are. Most people don't think of their cisness as political, even though it is.

[-] teruma@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I specifically made a new account on an instance that allows downvoting just for transphobes.

[-] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago

I think this is for USA only. Please put that in the title.

[-] CCatMan@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

Keep kids safe online, but starve them at school. 👍

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