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[-] einlander@lemmy.world 173 points 5 days ago

Time for the rich to buy stocks on discount.

[-] Sibshops@lemm.ee 72 points 5 days ago

Assuming the US can recover...

[-] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 67 points 5 days ago

Normally Trump does what's best for the ultra wealthy, but de-dollarization of the world economy appears to be good for nobody in the USA. I have no clue what they're trying to do, I suspect he's just lost it and there's nobody left to tell him these tariffs hurt his croneys too.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if we're already too far along to save the dollar's position globally. Globally that's probably a good thing, but for any of us in the US it's decidely not.

[-] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 61 points 5 days ago

I have no clue what they're trying to do

They published it online. project 2025. They straight up told you what they're going to do. Add in pooty, whose goals align a great deal, and that's it. How do people still not get this, they told you what they're doing.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 20 points 5 days ago

What does Project 2025 have to say about tariffs?

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 37 points 5 days ago

Project 2025 is split on the issue of foreign trade.[109] Mandate author Peter Navarro advocates what he calls a fair trade policy of reciprocal, higher tariffs on the European Union, China, and India, to achieve a balance of trade, though not all U.S. levies are lower than those of its major trading partners.[126] On the other hand, Mandate author Kent Lassman of the Competitive Enterprise Institute promotes a free trade policy of lowering or eliminating tariffs to cut costs for consumers, and calls for more free trade agreements.[126] He argues that Trump's and Biden's tariffs have undermined not just the American economy, but also the nation's international alliances.[117]

The first guy won apparently.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Right, he did, but here's my point: Project 2025 doesn't actually come out clearly for or against tariffs. So in so far as "they wrote it all down in Project 2025 and told you exactly what they're going to do", that's just not the case for tariffs. And even the guy in favor of tariffs wasn't talking about such broad and strong tariffs all at once.

In other words, this is Trump's plan on his own.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 10 points 5 days ago

Yeah, that's just Trump. He likes to be vengeful and a bully, using tariffs like a stick to beat others info submission. But he doesn't seem to know when enough is enough.

[-] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

I think it’s more to the point to say he’s trying to destroy America, period.

It’s what Putin has been using his puppet for this whole time.

America falls apart, Russia gains.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 25 points 5 days ago

As confusing as it is this does still all fit into Theil’s plan to isolate the US in order to create a corpo-fascist state and bring back apartheid.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

with this move they seem to want to stop the rich from paying taxes and replace them with tariffs. the poor will end up paying them.

he hinted at it a few times. to be clear, i think its still dumb as fuck but here it is.

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[-] andyquest@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 days ago

Idk, when do they buy? This shit has to go way more south before our dear great leader decides to undo the tariffs, right? And if he doesn't undo them, when would it go back up? We're still in a race to the bottom...

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Knowing Trump's irrationality, he just wants to erase all the market gains from when Biden was in office. That means he'll keep at it until the DOW looses another 10,000 points or so.

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[-] Naevermix@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago
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[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Unfortunately, this one wasn't a real tweet. It seems real, but it's not.

[-] Mendicant_Bias@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago

Now we know why he's keeping Elon around, he needs a lift.

[-] Naevermix@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Such incredible foresight from Elon—parking a Tesla in orbit around the sun for this particular occasion!

[-] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 33 points 4 days ago

Do you think Trump, Musk and their oligarch insider friends maybe, just maybe, opened short positions on a bunch of stock ahead of the new tariff announcement?

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

This is my thought exactly.

I watched Steven Colbert yesterday saying that this large of a fuck up is proof there is no deep state. While I get his point, I disagree. If there is someone in the shadows pulling strings this was the intended outcome.

It's pretty well known that in trading markets, there's almost always something that goes up when everything else drops like a rock. Even as such, moving money to be liquid right before a steep drop off, then buying up all the formerly high-value stocks at bargain basement pricing, and just waiting for the rebound, is a legit strategy. Having foreknowledge of such an action is considered insider trading however. Realistically, insider trading is difficult to prove unless the perpetrator is an idiot.

Whether you call it the deep state or the 1% or oligarchs, or simply "rich assholes", if you believe there is a group orchestrating things, then you beat believe this was the intended outcome.

[-] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

Nothing needs to go up. Shorting stocks lets you make money off of them when they go down. If a person or group of people can cause a crash and know in advance what day it's happening, they can borrow stocks and then buy the stock to repay the loan at a lower price and pocket the change.

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[-] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 102 points 5 days ago

The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.

All is going according to plan.

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Its Russia in the 90s all over again. Must be a coincidence that the Russian mafia-turned-regime they're so chummy with, got its foot in the door and secured its power through an almost identical move.

Im wondering if America will have its equivalent of the 1999 Apartment bombings.

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[-] exemplariasuntomni@lemmings.world 13 points 5 days ago

A lot of people might decide to violently resist such an eventuality. Things can quickly go off the rails.

Remember that despite the rule of law no longer applying to the rich and powerful, the laws of physics continue to apply.

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[-] te_abstract_art@lemmy.world 52 points 5 days ago
[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 23 points 5 days ago

I mean, it’s only fuck if you’re in the stock market.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 75 points 5 days ago

I mean, anyone with a 401K is in the stock market.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 33 points 5 days ago

Which is why 401k is a scam.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 54 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's still basically most people's only hope for retirement. And represents a large portion of the compensation they are literally working for day after day.

[-] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 days ago

Especially with the history of constant cuts, and current gutting of, social security.

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[-] Zorsith 10 points 5 days ago

My life experience has given me no reason to believe it was ever going to pay out anyway. Let the motherfucker burn.

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[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 5 days ago

My 401k today is $520 less than what it was Jan 21st. I put in almost $600 every 2 weeks.

That's a good chunk of change that just disappeared. I can only imagine how much someone with a bigger retirement account than I have is hurting.

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[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
[-] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

And yet people still felt the need to vote for him

I'll never understand this country....

[-] cocomutative_diagram@infosec.pub 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And people still thinks he is playing some sort of 4D chess. My friend in Georgia mentioned that people around her says Trump is creating a dip, so that federal reserve will lower interest rate.

Yes, because president can fire tons fedral workers, can send secret police to abduct people, but cannot control the federal reserve, and have to play stagnation or bust.

[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 5 points 5 days ago

Lack of education, bo lack of racism

[-] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 5 days ago

Old stock trader wisdom: don't catch a falling knife.

You don't know how low things can go. We're merely 100 days into the Trump presidency.

[-] Joeffect@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

It's not even 100 days... 73 days since Jan 20th

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[-] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 21 points 5 days ago

I was considering trying to cash out my 401k and ira in the US (I bought my first house and I think that's one of the allowed cases), but hadn't worked out the details yet. Guess that's not happening right now. I no longer live in the US and will probably renounce citizenship once my parents go.

I looked at my other investments this morning based on this post and.... Lol. Granted, I only one a handful, but it still hurts. My stock that was worth only like 40 cents moved up 5+% so yay for that, I guess.

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[-] funkforager@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

Screen of the WSJ on mobile. For posterity.

[-] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago

They voted for this. We all have to be onboard for the crash.

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[-] Skua@kbin.earth 12 points 5 days ago

*Trading partner tariff rate is calculated by the White House to include "currency manipulation and trade barriers."

This needs to be way fucking bigger than a tiny light grey caption under the image, AP. "Trading partner tariff rate is pulled directly out of the administration's collective rear end"

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

This is what Trump wants. He wants the market to drop and/or a recession. Why? To force the Fed to drop rates back to essentially zero. Once that happens, expect a blistering turnaround in the market. Everyone and their great aunt will be borrowing money at ultra low interest to buy stocks. The stock market will explode, maybe crypto, too. Inflation will skyrocket. It will be nuts.

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