The mods at non credible defence aren't going to like this.
What even is the purpose of that sub?
Fetishizing NATO, basically.
Spreading war propaganda
The same as NAFO: shilling for the MIC
a place for chuds to cope
They might still cum from the top left one
A lot of excusing going on on that last panel
This was also said in a context that included a military draft
I wish I could post this here in Australia without getting rocks from every white Australian. You can search my post history to see their reaction to questioning this.
Australia was involved in every one of those crimes. And the celebration for those meaningless murders are everywhere. Questioning this is questioning the sacrifice of Jesus.
Though by order of our north american overlords the US should not be alone in that title.
We really need to separate the trauma that formed the ANZAC legend from the fuckos of any warfare since.
My great-grandfather was an ANZAC - actual, WWI, 23rd Battalion, 16 year old. I knew him extremely well, I was sixteen when he passed. I had a front row seat to what happened to those kids for the rest of their lives.
I don't fucking venerate servicemen.
ACAB includes the troops. Going to foreign countries to shoot brown kids doesn't make you any less of a bastard than doing it at home.
I don't think any cops have been drafted into police service. They also don't go to jail if they quit their job. And I haven't heard of police recruiters using predatory tactics and targeting disadvantaged groups. The military does, or has done, all of those things to recruit troops.
I don’t think any cops have been drafted into police service.
The US (which is what this meme is focusing on) has an all-volunteer force.
They also don’t go to jail if they quit their job. And I haven’t heard of police recruiters using predatory tactics and targeting disadvantaged groups. The military does, or has done, all of those things to recruit troops.
There's plenty of pro-cop propaganda and plenty of people who join the police thinking they're going to do good. I'm sorry but at some point people have to be held accountable for their actions. Any troop that's not a bastard and who's actively trying to leave should understand why I call troops bastards. It was bastards who recruited them, after all, and it's bastards keeping them there.
In any case, people make way too many excuses for these people, and all it does is reinforce the idea that it's ok, which leads to more people falling for that propaganda and those predatory tactics.
The amount of cope in this thread is astonishing. I never thought I'd see an actual person justifying killing hundreds of thousands of civilians with a straight face. But here we are
I am a US veteran
Nothing makes me cringe harder than someone thanking me for my service
Even though I personally didn't do anything horrible, it's still making me remember one of the worst experiences of my life
It only seems to be a US only thing. I assume it's because the military is such a big thing for the US where other countries just see having a military almost as a chore.
This might get a lot of down votes but I want to say I don't think it's fair to blame the soldiers in the field for the choices of the decision makers in the office. Those horrible events were unwanted 'byproducts' of the goal of men with evil plans, they were not veterans going off-book. In other words, these veterans did what was asked of them. I'm not saying they didn't do some very bad things, but they aren't the people that should be 'thanked'.
In German penal law there were discussions on how to treat those that act under orders. Many Germans did act under orders and even in accordance to law in WW2 but also in regard to the Mauerschützen (the soldiers that shot dissidents at the inner German border)- meaning that there were difficulties persecuting them as it was technically legal. There were way too few persecutions, however something called the Radebrechtsche formula was developed. Paraphrasing it says, something that is morally wrong to every morally thinking being cannot be legalized or excused. It is simply illegal to act on orders that are naturally wrong.
Sure, but how many 18 year old boys were convicted for being conscripted into the Wehrmacht?
The US uses economic coercion to force poor kids into joining. They give veterans a massive priority bump for public sector jobs and the GI Bill is often the only way poor kids can afford college.
Also, the US military uses far more obfuscation than the Nazis used. When I was in the Air Force, I worked in geo-spatial intelligence which was mostly extracting heat signatures from satellite collected data. They kept us in the dark on what our intel was being used for. All I knew was that our intel was helping to save the lives of our fellow soldiers somehow and that the government would pay for my college when I was done.
You are literally arguing the same as all Nazis did. "I was just following orders". US military decided to join an organisation that constantly attacks other countries.
There is absolutely no reason to blindly respect someone just because they’ve “served their country.” We don’t know what they’ve done. We have so many examples of soldiers doing horrible things to civilians around the world that blind respect is simply not warranted.
People got mad at this one streamer for saying American soldiers deserve PTSD. When you consider that most interventions by the US are not justified or just imperial power plays, and that many soldiers commit war crimes, you realize she has a point.
I mean. Jimmy just wanted to go to college. But was forced to go to Iraq. The soldiers don’t have much choice. Especially the boys in trailer parks. They have no opportunity and the military gives them that.
Ooh poow widdwe Jimmy ... you know who didn't have a choice? the kids whose heads he blew off. I don't care if he had a choice in going there or not, Jimmy doesn't deserve a blink of sleep for the rest of his miserable cunting life if he didn't knowingly miss every single shot.
Every US soldier signed up for killing, they deserve whatever they get.
“Protecting freedom” by torturing and bombing people halfway across the world
reminds me of how they always try to justify the nuking of japan cities that had hundreds of thousands of civillians (twice even)
If you think the Things the US did as a democracy we're Bad Just wait and See what autocracy will bring.
Gonna be interesting who's gonna suffer more. It's own population or the others.
usa: summons cthulhu to bring destruction of the universe
people: what if it was a republican, things would be worse
What? It's just enhanced interrogation!
Praise your "heroes". It’s enlightening to watch a civilization confuse slaughter with honor.
