[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I think I am for real I'm done with Lemmy lol

This is the funniest part of the harassment thread

This comment is talking about Sunshine/Beaver who came to my instance after that. I had nothing to do with it 🤷‍♀️

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I'm not policing anything. I am free to associate with whoever I want to.

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Utilitarianism is Nazi ideology.

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Thank you for tone policing.

God I hate lemmy.

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 1 points 4 days ago

I'm laying out my position and hope people agree. If this isn't what people believe then I think I've failed at building the community I want to be a part of.

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[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That is right, I will never accept a philosophy that is anti-justice.

I did want to hear if people disagreed and I'm glad you posted your thoughts, I do not hate you and am not mad about it but I didn't write that because I was opened to being changed, it was to simply to open the floor to people state their thoughts.

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The ethical framework of the panopitcon and Nazi eugenics is not one that I would openly claim I follow. If it brought you to veganism it was an accident, a utilitarian would be against abolitionist veganism for being too extreme and for promoting humane animal testing. Utilitarianism undermines the fundamental concept of justice which is core to a social justice movement like veganism. Sorry but there is no room for that. You should really evaluate the effect of utilitarianism on the world and what people utilitarian mindsets have actually done. If it helps you that is fine but I can never support it and have to denounce what I see are dangerous ideologies.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/ethics-everyone/201506/whats-wrong-utilitarianism

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Stop it.

When I helped run the the "Vegan Circlejerk" Reddit community we were always firmly anti-utilitarian. Utilitarianism is a nonsensical, murderous, carceral, western philosophy that espouses using impossible math to come to conclusions. The wrong way to approach the world is to attempt to do equations and decide on your approach based on nonsense regardless of your intent for the "greater good." We and the communities I've helped moderate have always believed in doing the right thing. Acting in accordance with your belief will bring you the result you want.

After my crew and I stepped down from Reddit, that community was steered towards antinatalism. I am personally against this and want to have this community come to consensus against it as well. I have no right to tell other people what to do with their bodies. For some I believe this philosophy is a way to control women's bodies and set impossible standards. For others I believe it to be an expression of frustration and depression. Neither of these are in the spirit of abolitionist veganism and it will never become a prerequisite for it. Additionally the antinatalist philosophy is exclusionary to people who already have had kids which, when you get to my age, is most people. The admin of lemmy.vg is the same person who brought this philosophy to the subreddit, I would hope that recent events would encourage them to remove this link. To be clear if you decide having children is not for you that is great. I also came to this conclusion. I also don't believe everyone who promotes people coming to their own decision is a bad person or doing the wrong thing if that includes not having children. It is when we demand people do not that it becomes problematic.

By extension these other utilitarian adjacent philosophies can be found within our movement and it is time to formally denounce it. The point of veganism and leftism is to promote life, not rally against it. The point of veganism is to elevate all life to the consideration that is supposed to be enjoyed by humans. The point of leftism is to ensure that all humans are elevated to that status too and protect each other. When we adopt philosophies that are anti-life, anti-birth, anti-woman, anti-human we lose touch with this and it is the seed from which ur-fascist thought grows.

What happened in Palm Springs is a tragedy. They were not bringing the fight to capital which oppresses us all, it brought the fight to people we are in solidarity with against capital. It was not bringing the fight to the soldiers of the settler regime, it attacked the entrapped. It was essentially a murder suicide from a depressed person who needed solidarity and community. Our vegan communities are doing a disservice promoting misanthropy to our comrades.

Please if you agree or disagree leave your statement in the comments. Thanks.

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I blended tofu and spinach together with nutritional yeast, lemon, salt, pepper and layered it with home made red wine tomato sauce, lasagna noodles and the spinach filling. I topped it with a mix of tofu, bread crumbs and hempseeds with nutritional yeast, lemon, Italian seasoning, white pepper and salt. I served it with extra tomato sauce not pictured.

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

DING DING Hey Sunshine, get a life you fucking loser. It is weird that you are obsessed with me and have to follow me around on Lemmy but I would find something better to do with my time. I wrote this specifically on a week old inactive thread to see how long it would take for you to post this on your harassment sub you sick creep and it actually worked LOL. Having a difference of opinion about anything doesn't mean you need to follow someone around and post about them and create drama. Making dozens of accounts so you can manipulate Lemmy is truly unhinged behavior. Get mental help you stalker.

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[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 139 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Before you reply to me directly please understand:

  1. The US overthrew democracy in the country I am from
  2. The US installed a fascist king with secret police that terrorized my family
  3. Once kicked out the US supported a dictator in the neighboring country where the other half of my family lived
  4. The US funded both sides of a war between my country and the neighboring one that led to mass civilian deaths, one side directly by giving a dictator weapons and cash and the other side clandestinely thru laundering money by selling drugs in Latin America
  5. Once they lost that war turned on the dictator in the neighboring country and invented reasons to illegally invade. Twice
  6. Toppled the regime and left a power vacuum that consumed all my family that lived there for literally hundreds of years.
  7. Created material conditions in the country my family is from that forced them to leave or die

You Americans are not the good guys, your country and government is evil to its core.

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