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[-] GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

I'd be happy if we could just join the EEA. I want to be able to work in the EU.

[-] NewDay@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

I think it is not that hard for you if you are a Canadian citizen. The language is the real problem.

[-] GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

It is as difficult for us as it is for an American. It's not very common to be able to get a work permit without an employer sponsoring you and most EU employers have enough selection in Europe they don't need people from North America.

I speak French (fluent), Spanish (good but not well enough for a formal workplace), and enough Danish to make myself understood

As a European, I think it would be pretty funny if, after Brexit, the other parts of the former Empire joined the EU.

But at least right now, membership is probably more of a meme - some solid cooperation and shared institutions would be amazing, though.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

EU already said this can't work. It said in the rules only European countries can join the EU. But something can be worked out, no doubt.

[-] lena@gregtech.eu 18 points 1 week ago

~~European~~ Worldwide Union

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Globalists but for real this time.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Canada becomes a France province, easy.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago

Or France becomes a Canadian one and switch to English as the primary official language. It would solve a ton of issues and I'm sure the French would be okay with it.

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You have to be "substantially European", which includes Cyprus, which is fully in Asia and half Turkish. Also, Greenland and to a degree Iceland aren't geographically European.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Membership of the European Economic Area - same as Norway - for example.

Comes with being part of the EU Internal Market, Freedom Of Movement (both ways, of course) and exceptions in a couple of areas (such as fishing rights not being decided by the EU, which I suspect is something that Canada would rather have) but without voting power within the EU.

[-] arakhis_@feddit.org 82 points 1 week ago
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[-] DeepChill@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 week ago

Well, we do share a land border with Denmark. Sooooo…. we’re practically European already!

[-] SaturdayMorning@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

And France (Saint Pierre) I think? Thanks CBC Gem!

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Saint Pierre and Miquelon, right by Newfoundland. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pierre_and_Miquelon

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[-] UpperBroccoli 43 points 1 week ago

Well, if Canada can take part in the Eurovision song contest, they might as well join the EU.

[-] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

Let's just rename the EU to "United Earth" like in Star Trek, since Australia is practically in it already on account of being in Eurovision.

That way we don't need to change the initials, just swap them.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 week ago

Earth United would be better, no need to even change the merch.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago
[-] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

They always lose on penalties to fuckin Mars, man

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[-] RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago
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[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

How about the US just becomes provinces 14-64? I'll gladly take anything else.

[-] Sloogs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nah sorry we're not taking the red states. They can be their own Christofascist hell elsewhere.

[-] MediocreBee@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can I raise you the proposal of Canada and Jesusland

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

You want more convoys? Ingesting the US will give you nothing but cancer. If it's not a city or a suburb, you're just absorbing indoctrinated fascism. It's pervasive.

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[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 20 points 1 week ago

#canadentry

[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago
[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

I'm not sure why I keep seeing this posted, like it's some sort of gotcha. It doesn't mean our other elections would have to change, just the brand new representatives to the EU.

The vote for liberal leadership used Preferential Voting where you could indicate more than one preference.

[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

It's not about being a "gotcha" - it's about demonstrating a pathway to better democratic representation.

You're right that EU membership would only require PR for European Parliament representatives initially. However, this would create several significant opportunities:

  1. Practical demonstration: Canadians would experience firsthand how an electoral system that ensures every vote counts actually works, rather than just hearing theoretical arguments.

  2. Institutional precedent: Once PR is successfully implemented for one electoral body, the argument that it's "too complex" or "un-Canadian" becomes much harder to maintain.

  3. Democratic legitimacy gap: Having representatives to the EU Parliament elected through PR while our own MPs are chosen through FPTP would create an obvious legitimacy contrast that would be difficult to justify.

The Liberal leadership vote using preferential voting actually supports this point. Internal party processes already recognize the limitations of FPTP - they just don't extend those same democratic principles to the general electorate. In fact, all parties, even the Conservatives, use superior electoral systems to FPTP.

The reality is that 76% of Canadians support electoral reform according to recent polling, but our major parties benefit from maintaining a system that systematically discards votes. Exposure to functioning PR would make the democratic deficit in our current system increasingly apparent.

[-] AChiTenshi@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Because it's a step towards proportional representation. It would expose much more of the populace to how it's done. Hopefully getting more people used to the idea of it.

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[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

Guys guys guys, let's be good friends with the EU, let's even adopt some of their best policies, but honestly, they also have some baggage we don't need.

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[-] Panamalt@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Might be some geographical issues (perhaps of the ocean variety) with this proposal

Well, Ireland is separated from the rest of the continent by ocean. Canada is just a slightly bigger island, slightly further away...

[-] el_eh_chase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

There is French territory just off the coast of Newfoundland too (see Saint Pierre and Miquelon), also Denmark is right next door because of Greenland. So while still pretty far fetched, there is some precedent for European territory in North America.

[-] dankm@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Canada shares a land border with Greenland on Hans Island.

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[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Maybe canada can be the first member of a post-European EU. I guess we'll need a new name.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Why not? I would vote yes to allow Canada into the EU.

[-] FelixMortane@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

Yes please, I will vote to support this.

[-] rex_meatman@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Can’t we just harvest the states that want to leave?

[-] androidul@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

The EU 🇪🇺 is more than welcome to include Canada 🇨🇦 as the 28th member state 🤝

Can we Philadelphians join?

👀

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[-] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 8 points 1 week ago

I'm super jealous because I've wanted to have Canadian citizenship since back in my late teens / early adulthood when I realized that there was already a version of America that actually lived up to American ideals and which offered same-sex marriage as well as universal healthcare. That weed and apparently codeine are legal there make it so much more bittersweet.

The only people I've known personally to get citizenship are those who married a Canadian citizen. Which sucks for me because I'm already happily partnered and there's no way I'd give that up for anything, not even Canadian citizenship, awesome and appealing as it is.

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