Didn't Jesus say something along the lines of "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's"? Sounds to me like he was pro taxes.
Matthew 22:20,21: He said to them: “Whose image and inscription is this?” They said: “Caesar’s.” Then he said to them: “Pay back, therefore, Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.”
He probably didn't want to get crucified for encouraging tax evasion.
You are really crossing a line here with your comment!
I thought he kinda nailed it
He definitely spearheaded this comment thread.
At least they arent crossing a man.
Duh, because in the Bible he was crucified for blasphemy so if he ended up crucified for tax evasion the whole story would have fallen apart.
Exactly what my dad said when I tried to teach him about pirating media lol
No he didn't. That line was added at the Council of Nicea a couple of hundred years later
Every line in the Bible about Jesus was added later.
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s
except that's not what taxes are - taxes are citizens money going in to a pot to pay for things citizens need.
Also doesn't sound like something Jesus would say (in the context being portrayed) considering how much he hated the rich and their greed (to be clear, I'm not even christian, but this is well known).
Either way, some rich fuck trying to claim them for themsleves (or whoever added it later to serve the ruler of the time) doesn't change what taxes are.
I love people so deliberately missing the point.. Fuck Jesus and what he did or didn't say, taxes aren't for and don't belong to the ruler of a country/community/whatever, no matter what that ruler tells you, it really isn't that fucking complicated.
Also doesn't sound like something Jesus would say
It is literally something he said, after specifically being asked about paying taxes.
Is it right for us to pay taxes to Caesar or not?” He saw through their duplicity and said to them, “Show me a denarius. Whose image and inscription are on it?”“Caesar’s,” they replied. He said to them, “Then give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” Luke 20 NIV
It's pretty clear they're taking about taxes.
The Bible actually says to shut up and pay your taxes without complaining lmao. Wonder who wrote that?
Yeah, you can bet your ass the Pope wanted everyone paying up.
There is very specifically tax fraud issues in the Bible. Mostly by tax collectors themselves. Lots of other places where it says to follow the laws of government.
The meme does encapsulate the views of a crap ton of fake Christians though.
It doesn't really discourage rape or slavery either, though. It's not a good manual for modern society.
You're mostly correct about slavery, but rapists got stoned to death. Deuteronomy 22.
AFAIK they had to pay 50 shekels and marry the woman they raped right?
Yeah, I suppose I shouldn't have left out that detail. Raping an unbetrothed virgin doesn't get the same treatment as raping another man's wife. I'd still say paying a fine and never being able to divorce counts as "discouraging" rape, but... damn.
Wasn't JC kind of nice to slaves or sth?
Idunno, probably? Being nice to the downtrodden seemed to be more or less his thing when he wasn't telling people that he was his own imaginary sky daddy 🤷
Pretty sure he didn't actually FREE all the slaves or even told slavers to please do so, though. Spartacus is a much better role model than Jesus in that aspect.
Here, here! Jesus just did lame stuff like die on a cross. He could have saved a bunch of slaves sometime around 30 AD, specifically in the region of Roman occupied Israel. That would have been more important for the history of humanity.
For the time, maybe. But the few times slavery is mentioned in the NT the focus is on treatment of slaves, not abolition. And even then, for slave owners who didn't follow Christian teachings, slaves were basically told to suck it up and get back to work (1Peter 2:18). Paul appears to free Onesimus in the book of Philemon (although I can't tell if his intended meaning is literal), and it's also worth noting that Christian nations were the first to abolish chattel slavery, but it'd be a stretch to say the Bible directly discourages slavery.
Actually, the first nation to abolish chattel slavery was Haiti, which was NOT a Christian nation at the time. The country as we know it today was literally founded through a successful slave revolt!
Render unto Cesar that which is Cesar's.
Lots of people are mentioning the Caesar thing, but nobody has mentioned that tithe is also a tax, and there is plenty said about that. Malachi 3:8, for example.
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A lot of people that don't get the anti-Roman rabble rouser was sneakily saying Caesar isn't owed anything by Judaea.
omw to look at the comments to see if it actually does
Stealing is a sin and tax fraud is stealing money from the country you live in
