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[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 180 points 2 years ago

Didn't Jesus say something along the lines of "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's"? Sounds to me like he was pro taxes.

[-] xrtxn@lemmy.sdf.org 65 points 2 years ago

Matthew 22:20,21: He said to them: “Whose image and inscription is this?” They said: “Caesar’s.” Then he said to them: “Pay back, therefore, Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.”

[-] dreadedsemi@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago

He probably didn't want to get crucified for encouraging tax evasion.

[-] Erdosan@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

You are really crossing a line here with your comment!

[-] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 years ago
[-] indepndnt@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

He definitely spearheaded this comment thread.

[-] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Are we resurrecting these old puns again?

[-] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago
[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

At least they arent crossing a man.

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Duh, because in the Bible he was crucified for blasphemy so if he ended up crucified for tax evasion the whole story would have fallen apart.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Didn't stop fundamentalists from retroactivity trying to create links of "prophecy" all throughout the OT for shit that wasn't even remotely related or intended as such.

They'd just have claimed he wasn't killed for tax evasion, no problems there for the fundies.

[-] Klystron@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

Exactly what my dad said when I tried to teach him about pirating media lol

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago
[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Only Caesar I've ever seen, was a salad.

[-] ReCursing@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

No he didn't. That line was added at the Council of Nicea a couple of hundred years later

[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 62 points 2 years ago

Every line in the Bible about Jesus was added later.

[-] wasabi@feddit.de 17 points 2 years ago
[-] ReCursing@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

My A-Level in biblical criticism thirty years ago. Sorry, I don't have the notes any more. Maybe google can help?

[-] wasabi@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

I couldn't find anything that supports your claim

[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

It’s the obligation of whoever makes a claim to support the claim, not of those who doubt it.

[-] ReCursing@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Reasonable were this a formal debate, bit sadly it's not and I really don't care enough to check. Disbelieve me, believe me, or check for your yourself as you see fit

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s

except that's not what taxes are - taxes are citizens money going in to a pot to pay for things citizens need.
Also doesn't sound like something Jesus would say (in the context being portrayed) considering how much he hated the rich and their greed (to be clear, I'm not even christian, but this is well known).
Either way, some rich fuck trying to claim them for themsleves (or whoever added it later to serve the ruler of the time) doesn't change what taxes are.

I love people so deliberately missing the point.. Fuck Jesus and what he did or didn't say, taxes aren't for and don't belong to the ruler of a country/community/whatever, no matter what that ruler tells you, it really isn't that fucking complicated.

[-] CrazyEddie041@kbin.social 61 points 2 years ago

Also doesn't sound like something Jesus would say

It is literally something he said, after specifically being asked about paying taxes.

[-] checksout@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago

Mf really talked out of his ass didn't he?

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago
[-] Famko@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago

Someone else said this line was a later addition.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

And as someone ELSE else pointed out, EVERY Jesus line was a later addition.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago

If we're taking that route, we ought to end the discussion right now.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Okeydoke. Have a nice nice day

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Just saying, if it's all made up, there's no room for discussion, because there's no truth to discuss

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I agree: as far as truth goes, the bible has none to discuss 🤷

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I agree it's all made up. I treat it as if it's Lord of the Rings. When i say "Jesus actually said this", it's as if I'm saying "Gandalf actually said this, in The Two Towers".

[-] scrypt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

y’all didn’t learn any history about the bible or historical religious texts and it shows.

christian or not, religious or not, the bible is one of the most irrefutable pieces of historical evidence we have. period. the religious things and callings you can leave out if you aren’t christian, that’s fine. but jesus was 100% a person and what he said is difficult if not impossible to argue existence over. doesn’t mean you have to believe in what he claimed, but he existed. and that’s just history.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago

Maybe don't direct this at the person in the thread who's showing the most sympathy to Christianity. Maybe direct this message at the other people who are directly attacking it.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Really, where's the evidence of a global flood?

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What other route even is there?

Either you discount things added later, so you discount everything and there is nothing left. Or you don't discount things just because they were added later, in which case this quote still stands.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago
[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

I think you may have gotten the wrong impression. I wasn't telling you to shut up.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago

Then maybe choose your words better.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Well, I didn't say "shut up", so there's at least a subtle clue there

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago
[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Your what? I didn't refetence a "my" in my comment.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago

Is it right for us to pay taxes to Caesar or not?” He saw through their duplicity and said to them, “Show me a denarius. Whose image and inscription are on it?”“Caesar’s,” they replied. He said to them, “Then give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” Luke 20 NIV

It's pretty clear they're taking about taxes.

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