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Hiring is broken (lemmy.world)
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[-] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 54 points 1 year ago

I once saw an ad looking to hire someone with a BA that knew 3 computer programming languages for $8 an hour.

[-] Opisek@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I know JavaScript, TypeScript, and ECMAScript.

[-] amon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I know word, excel, powerpoint

/s

(but then again macros are a thing)

[-] clonedhuman@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

The fact that the majority of us are essentially forced to participate in the capitalist market means that we will always be at the mercy of greasy, compliant, ass-sucking 'bosses.'

We don't have any freedom with work unless we have the freedom not to work.

[-] spooky2092 29 points 1 year ago

We don't have any freedom with work unless we have the freedom not to work.

What are you talking about? We have the freedom to not work and die cold and hungry in the streets just like the founding fathers intended!

Capitalism is slavery with extra steps.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

We don't have that freedom either. We have the freedom to be constantly harassed or imprisoned for not having a paid residence.

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Like gdog said, no, you don't actually. Being homeless is illegal in a ton of places.

[-] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Survival takes effort, whether that means working in an office or in a hunter gatherer tribe

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 year ago

"Our company develops AI. It has many uses and should substitute for human labor whenever possible."

"USE OF AI BY APPLICANTS IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED!"

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

As funny as it is when presented that way, it does make sense. After all if a company is using AI wherever possible, and yet hiring a person, then presumably it's because they want that person to do things they don't want to be using AI for.

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 43 points 1 year ago

I've also noticed “competitive” seems to mean “just above what they believe the competition's minimum is”, and together they and their competition drive the wages down.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 year ago

There was an article about staffing agencies spamming LLM generated CVs to companies to saturate the market and convince companies that hiring is impossibly hard

[-] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Hell even without that hiring is really really hard. Im the IT manager for my company and I'm looking to hire for some level 1 help desk type positions. They don't need to be super experienced, but they do need to know things like "what is group policy" or "how would you troubleshoot this hypothetical issue". Basically they should be able to pass the Comptia A+ test, even if they dont actually have it.

My God I got over 600 applications within a business week! The vast majority of those applicants were from people with no experience, lots of experience in a different field!

Like I was getting these applicants from people who have 15 years of plumbing or machining experience. Or people who clearly haven't been able to hold down a job (if you bounce from minimum wage job to minimum wage job every other month, that's a bad look). Or on the other end of the spectrum, I was getting people with decades of sysadmin experience applying too.

I had to start having HR filter the top and bottom out of the stack so I could actually see useful data.

[-] JohnSmith@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago

One of the best ones I ever got was an ‘engineer’ who described driving around in his van ‘fixing things’ applying for a machine learning engineer position.

[-] lovely_reader@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I wonder if a staffing agency might have spammed you with LLM generated CVs.

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 32 points 1 year ago

We need to have 4 years expirenece on techology version {current_year}

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Real conversation, not exaggerated. Actually slightly toned down:

"We offer a competitive salary! It's $number!"

"I have 2 offers 10% higher, from a shipping company and a finance company, in the same city"

"We don't compete with the finance and shipping sectors"

"And 15% higher in one of the consultancies"

"We don't compete with consultancies either"

(I think I'm going to put Reigninh Monarch of Norway on my CV. I just don't compete with King Harald.)

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Had a job interview once where they asked me how much I was expecting to make. I told them and they responded with "Yeah, I think we can do that." Then when they called me to offer me the job they had lowered it by a few bucks an hour. I took it because I had to at the time. They knew that people are desperate and this was their strategy with everyone. Fucking scum.

[-] arotrios@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

LPT:

"What are you expecting to make?"

Correct answer: Your real target (based on your own market research for the position) +15%.

Why? Because they're going to target your acceptable range at -10%, and make the offer right around there.

Then, you can come back and say "I might be able to make that work, as long as X, Y and / or Z are part of the package" where XYZ is anything from remote work to reimbursement for commute mileage.

If they say no to the added XYZ and you're desperate, well go ahead and accept, because you've just earned yourself +5% of what you were targeting. If they say yes, well, even better.

Don't go higher than 15% - this could kill the offer entirely if you misjudge the interview. 15% seems to be the sweet spot in my experience, based on a 30 year career.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

A system cannot fail those it was never meant to protect.

[-] missandry351@lemmings.world 11 points 1 year ago

Poor people always land the most competitive salaries…

The salary competes with the bills

[-] Franklin@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

i wonder if family structures will change to be closer to that of India as children are forced to stay with their parents longer and longer

[-] arotrios@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

And by competitive, we mean it will make you compete for the last scraps at the food bank.

[-] CPMSP@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

Fuck that! I just hired two people and during the screener I told them the base and comp plan so we don't all waste our time in a mutual ruined-orgasm masturbation session.

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