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Culinary map (i.redd.it)
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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago

I wonder what Italians think about our (Hungarian) fake Italian food called Milánói Sertésborda, or Milanese Pork Ribs. It consists of Milánói/Milanese sauce made with tomato sauce, garlic, black pepper, oregano, basil (if you're not an imbecile trying to mimic Michelin chefs by only using little or no seasoning), and thyme (also often left out by the former group), pork belly, and either bacon or smoked ham; macaroni (the long kind); and pork snitzel (which most Hungarians think is a Hungarian food).

[-] hm_@lemmy.wtf 14 points 16 hours ago

This is Funny if you think about it because Modern Pizza originates from the USA and Pasta from China

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

Naples. Modern pizza comes from Naples.

That dish was then taken to New York where shredded cheese was used in place of the slices used in Neapolitan pizza.

Pasta on the other hand, does descend from a Chinese dish. Sort of. The Proto-italians actually invented some types of pasta dish themselves, notably the precursor to lasagna and ravioli.

[-] eestileib 3 points 11 hours ago

Man y'all have clearly never eaten in Lyon...

[-] gerryflap@feddit.nl 36 points 1 day ago

I'm Dutch and I think this map is completely unfair. It overrates our food significantly

[-] Airowird@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

As a Belgian, I agree!

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 15 points 22 hours ago

The Dutch chartered an enormous company to trade spices, but never used them.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 22 hours ago

That's just common knowledge, dealers never dip into their own product.

[-] Kundas@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

As someone who's lived Italy, this does sound like something an Italian would say lmao

[-] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Tbh I find Italian culinary traditions underwhelming. Like they just gave up 10 minutes in, no work at all because it's too hot.

To be fair, the further from coastline, the better the Italian cuisine - more herbs, more variety, more complex recipes (e.g Ligurian braised rabbit)

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 22 hours ago

I saw a really good documentary recently, hell if I can remember the name. It covered actual Italian historical dishes. They were explaining that most of the really old stuff was region specific. Like one dish in one area had nothing to do with the same dish in another area. They actually went through kind of a food reimagining or Renaissance after one of the wars. Basically they were saying that pizza as it is now is not that old. Prior to the rush into America they had flatbreads that kind of but didn't really approximate pizza, and it wasn't until the Italian Americans repatriated that they started honing what they consider they current concept of pizza.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

The concept of nations as well as their culture and cuisine are relatively young. Medieval cuisine was both highly local and also quite similar across a shared biome.

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

Italians have a couple of great hits and a lot of duds.

[-] kittenzrulz123 7 points 22 hours ago

Agreed, Bosnian and Croatian food are the only proper food :3

[-] SheenSquelcher@lemm.ee 4 points 21 hours ago

According to this map I should probably be dead.

[-] Lininop@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago

This tracks, every Italian I've ever met has been a complete snob about food.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 1 day ago

u wot m8?

We've got Greggs Sausage Rolls.

All you've got is pasta and tomato sauce for every meal, and think different shaped pasta makes it a different dish!

That's like thinking beans on toast is different if you put it on different shaped bread.

[-] zer0nix@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

I'm a little disappointed that the center is a knife and fork instead of a hand pinching fingers together to make a point

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 115 points 2 days ago

I knew an Italian exchange student that kept whining that nothing tasted good and nothing tasted as it should up here in Scandinavia. Then another exchange student (from Thailand I think) got tired of him and told him ~"the rest of the world isn't your mother" and it was a literal moment of realisation for this dude.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 9 points 22 hours ago

Wow, a rare good tasteful Your Mom remark

[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 5 points 21 hours ago

the rest of the world isn't your mother

Nah but it's way closer than it should be

Zing!

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 76 points 1 day ago

I wholeheartedly support culinarily disrespecting Italians, honestly.

Dudes trying to convince us that they are presenting ancient traditions when their precious dishes are invented in like the 60s

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Dudes trying to convince us that they are presenting ancient traditions

Ancient traditions

Look inside

Post Columbian exchange vegetables

[-] bob_lemon@feddit.org 4 points 16 hours ago

Post-columbian fruit is underselling just how new at least posts of it are. Carbonara was invented by US soldiers in the 1940s, literally made using bacon and powdered egg from their rations.

Tiramisu is unclear, but 1939 seems to be the earliest of the possible candidate, the earliest actual document is from 1969.

Pizza as we know it today was reimported from the US.

I love Italian food, but it's much less traditional than people pretend.

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[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I feel like France, Greece, and Spain are gonna have some pretty strong objections.

RIP Portugal

[-] faercol 1 points 3 hours ago

Well, I'm from Northern France, and "fattening" is kinda accurate. Still tasty tho

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 22 hours ago

You know what's strange. I can buy French cuisine, Mexican cuisine, Canadian cuisine, I can even find elements of UK in Germany

I'm not even aware that Spain has a cuisine. I just looked up the entry on Wikipedia and I've never seen any of those dishes really.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Chorizo, tapas, and paella are all pretty popular and well known.

I should have included Greece on that list, it's food is more well know in North America.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 10 hours ago

Tapas is genius way to charge people a lot for not enough food.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

Bro youve just described appetizers in general 😭

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago

I assumed chorizo was Mexican, I've actually made that before.

I've had paella but it was on a cruise ship in the Caribbean.

I've heard of tapas but I've never actually seen it.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 21 hours ago

I'm not really an expert.
Tapas are like dim sum, a category of sharable appetizers, rather than a specific dish

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