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Culinary map (i.redd.it)
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[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 119 points 4 months ago

I knew an Italian exchange student that kept whining that nothing tasted good and nothing tasted as it should up here in Scandinavia. Then another exchange student (from Thailand I think) got tired of him and told him ~"the rest of the world isn't your mother" and it was a literal moment of realisation for this dude.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 12 points 4 months ago

Wow, a rare good tasteful Your Mom remark

[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

the rest of the world isn't your mother

Nah but it's way closer than it should be

Zing!

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 80 points 4 months ago

I wholeheartedly support culinarily disrespecting Italians, honestly.

Dudes trying to convince us that they are presenting ancient traditions when their precious dishes are invented in like the 60s

[-] htrayl@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago

Also, many times they will say some isn't an authentic way to do something, and then you will learn it is authentic for like, a few towns over.

[-] Aux@feddit.uk 11 points 4 months ago

You should see how Italians debate their own food when two of them are from two different towns. It's bloody epic!

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[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

Dudes trying to convince us that they are presenting ancient traditions

Ancient traditions

Look inside

Post Columbian exchange vegetables

[-] bob_lemon@feddit.org 6 points 4 months ago

Post-columbian fruit is underselling just how new at least posts of it are. Carbonara was invented by US soldiers in the 1940s, literally made using bacon and powdered egg from their rations.

Tiramisu is unclear, but 1939 seems to be the earliest of the possible candidate, the earliest actual document is from 1969.

Pizza as we know it today was reimported from the US.

I love Italian food, but it's much less traditional than people pretend.

[-] reyp@feddit.it 7 points 4 months ago

tourist traps are everywhere. nevertheless Italian cousin remains top notch. fact

[-] UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Must be a freak in the sheets.

[-] gerryflap@feddit.nl 41 points 4 months ago

I'm Dutch and I think this map is completely unfair. It overrates our food significantly

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago

The Dutch chartered an enormous company to trade spices, but never used them.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 months ago

That's just common knowledge, dealers never dip into their own product.

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[-] reyp@feddit.it 38 points 4 months ago

Spain and Portugal should be tier 1 or 2

[-] Anissem@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

Madrid’s food scene is amazing

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[-] los_chill@programming.dev 29 points 4 months ago

Spanish and Greek food beats Italian. Heck Polish food is way underrated. Also American pizza is better.

[-] reyp@feddit.it 11 points 4 months ago

American pizza made by Italian immigrants. ftfy

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago

As an American who just had some glorious fake pizza last night, I thought I hated pasta until I had good Italian, and then I realized I just hate Americanized Italian food. Except pizza, we do it better.

Pasta still isn't my favorite, but I'll take it if it's authentic. My SO makes some great aglio e olio and carbonara, often with shrimp.

[-] qqq@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As someone who makes pizza from scratch every week, I love all forms of pizza from fast food US pizza (like Dominos), to "drunk" US pizza dipped in ranch, to NY pizza, to Chicago deep dish, but what I make at home is always simple Italian pizza with just a few ingredients: dough, a sauce made from San Marzano tomatoes specifically canned for pizza with some salt, fresh oregano, mozzarella cheese, and olive oil. Sometimes I add a ton of arugula on top too. What's nice is that pizza is also kinda healthy actually.

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[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 22 points 4 months ago

Funny seeing this, especially from an iberian perpective, because local culinary is mostly the same as theirs. With the slight difference we actually have the balls to spice our food.

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I have yet to sample an Italian arrabiata sauce that I would remotely call 'spicy'. Though, to be fair, I'm an American that over spices everything I cook, so my palate is probably blown out at this point.

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[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I feel like France, Greece, and Spain are gonna have some pretty strong objections.

RIP Portugal

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[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Food in Portugal is delicious

[-] Rakete@lemm.ee 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
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[-] Foni@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago

How can you put Spain on the same level as Great Britain? Damn Italians don't know how to make anything other than sauce with tomatoes and they think they know how to cook.

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[-] hm_@lemmy.wtf 14 points 4 months ago

This is Funny if you think about it because Modern Pizza originates from the USA and Pasta from China

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Naples. Modern pizza comes from Naples.

That dish was then taken to New York where shredded cheese was used in place of the slices used in Neapolitan pizza.

Pasta on the other hand, does descend from a Chinese dish. Sort of. The Proto-italians actually invented some types of pasta dish themselves, notably the precursor to lasagna and ravioli.

[-] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Tbh I find Italian culinary traditions underwhelming. Like they just gave up 10 minutes in, no work at all because it's too hot.

To be fair, the further from coastline, the better the Italian cuisine - more herbs, more variety, more complex recipes (e.g Ligurian braised rabbit)

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 4 months ago

u wot m8?

We've got Greggs Sausage Rolls.

All you've got is pasta and tomato sauce for every meal, and think different shaped pasta makes it a different dish!

That's like thinking beans on toast is different if you put it on different shaped bread.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Fake pizza, sure, but doesn't imply it's bad. Plus ironically, you can find Italian style pizza in the US if you look for it.

That said, I'll still apologize for Dominos, Pizza Hut, et. al. for fast-foodizing the concept of pizza.

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[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

The Netherlands is probably an "overcooked pasta" enclave than. When I was a kid, I was sure Al Dente was Italian for Deathly Toxin.

[-] Exec@pawb.social 10 points 4 months ago

overcooked pasta
Al Dente

Ah, so Al Dante

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[-] epicstove@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago

Pre 1600s: Y'all a wanta some Rotting fish juice?

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Eh, half the authentic East Asian food you get has Fish Sauce as an ingredient, which is essentially Rotting Fish Juice. Hell, Worcester Sauce in the West is similar but different.

Source: Unmilitant vegan that is peeved that fermented fish product ends up being the secret ingredient in many authentic dishes.

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[-] Kundas@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

As someone who's lived Italy, this does sound like something an Italian would say lmao

[-] zer0nix@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

I'm a little disappointed that the center is a knife and fork instead of a hand pinching fingers together to make a point

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I grew up north of the toxic belt, and it's my firm opinion that Italian food is overrated. Well, except Parmesan, I'll give them that.

Lasagna is like a moussaka with too much tomato sauce and layers of pasta that should've been skipped.

Anyone who downvotes this is either Italian, or has a fetish for mashed tomatoes.

[-] reyp@feddit.it 5 points 4 months ago

Downvoted. I'm Italian. Nevertheless. De gustibus non disputandum est. But quality ingredients and culture make all the difference. Fun fact: I eat pasta once a month and pizza twice a year. Yet Italian and Spanish ingredients beat ingredients/produce from any other other European country.

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[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

poland in the fattening/caution zone is kind of on point actually

i fucking love polish food and feel that describes it pretty well X3

[-] kittenzrulz123 7 points 4 months ago

Agreed, Bosnian and Croatian food are the only proper food :3

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I mean, Italian food really is brilliant, they really just over time took all the best things they found and just made great food with it and left out everything else.

It's sort of crazy to think about how delicious a recipe with four ingredients can be until you realize they're four of the most delicious things on the planet.

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[-] Carlo_io@feddit.it 6 points 4 months ago

I confirm. Source: I'm Italian:):):)

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I mean, it may not be the best, but this puts portugal in a very bad position when we are all mediterranean with mostly the same ingredients.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 months ago

To quote a portuguese writer, very loosely: better food is served on a portuguese farm kitchen table than in the great dinning halls of Europe.

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