How would we convince people to join Lemmy? (feddit.nl)

submitted 4 months ago by thoon@feddit.nl to c/buyfromeu@feddit.org

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Genuine question, since the subreddit r/BuyFromEU is becoming larger and larger, actual migration feels due. Of course, we should use both platforms but right now using Reddit is more valuable and hence this platform is relatively small...

Any ideas?

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[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The Reddit mods remove posts mentioning Lemmy

https://feddit.nl/post/29715314?scrollToComments=true

I try to post on !buyeuropean@feddit.uk when I see an opportunity, but those posts get removed quite fast

They also ignore people asking about Lemmy promotion in the comments: https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1j3b8a4/weve_just_reached_100k_members_now_lets_break_out/

Otherwise, !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com has a few resources as pinned posts

[-] D_a_X@feddit.org 20 points 4 months ago

I don't think our goal here is to compete with reddit. We're happy when people come to us from Reddit, but we don't have to actively promote it. Of course lemmy was set up as an alternative to reddit, but we don't have to repeat all the mistakes.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago

i don't think you should convince them. maybe suggest it and otherwise let them suffer by their own hand

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Make Lemmy a nice place with a nice atmosphere, nice people and meaningful information and discussions. Once it shines, people will want to come here.

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Never convince. If the topic comes up, mention it. Be a living example on how you are convinced Lemmy is the future and people will look into it.

Trying to convince someone is just like trying to change someone's opinion. It never works. You will either be bothering them or they start thinking of arguments why you're wrong and become suspicious because you're selling them something.

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago

Here a take

Baby Boomers: It's like making phone calls directly to friends without going through a central operator.
Generation X: Think of it as a collection of independent websites where you can share and connect, like a bunch of forums that can talk to each other.
Millennials: Imagine a mix of social media platforms where you can post and interact freely, like having your own space on different apps that all connect.
Generation Z: It's like a giant chatroom where you can use different apps, but everyone can still see and talk to each other, no matter which one you’re on!

[-] Suoko@feddit.it 4 points 4 months ago

You should extend the samples to other categories like the nerd, the musician, the researcher, the mathematicians, the granmothers, ... 👏👏👏

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Good idea 👍

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Gamers: It’s like a multiplayer game where players from different servers can team up and chat, no matter which game they’re playing, creating a huge community.
Small Business Owners: Imagine a network of local shops where you can promote your business and connect with customers, but you’re not tied to one big marketplace; you can share and collaborate freely.
Activists: It’s like a grassroots movement where different groups can share ideas and organize events together, even if they’re using different platforms to spread the word.
Teachers: It’s like a collaborative classroom where educators from different schools can share resources and ideas, even if they’re using different teaching platforms.
Fitness Enthusiasts: Think of it as a community gym where everyone can share their workouts and progress, but you can connect with friends from different gyms and fitness apps.
Writers: It’s like a writers' workshop where authors can share their stories and feedback, regardless of which publishing platform they use, creating a vibrant literary community.
Travelers: Imagine a travel network where adventurers can share tips and experiences, even if they’re using different travel blogs or apps, helping everyone explore together.
Crafters: It’s like a craft fair where artisans can showcase their work and connect with each other, even if they’re selling on different platforms, fostering creativity and collaboration.
Musician: It’s like having your own stage on different platforms where fans can listen to your music, but you can still jam with other artists and share your work across all the stages.
Grandma: Think of it as a big family reunion where everyone can share stories and photos, even if they’re in different houses, and you can all stay connected without a big family organizer.

[-] moonhead@lemmy.cafe 8 points 4 months ago

Make it easier to actually use. Why are there so many options to sign up, what does it all mean, why do so many of those servers need verification, how do I know which ones I need to sign up for? It's a mess. I have no idea if this comment will even work, does the server matter here?

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

Welcome

You're on a good instance. It does not matter.

How can we help you?

[-] moonhead@lemmy.cafe 3 points 4 months ago

Huh? What does that even mean?

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

You said you were not sure your comment was going to make it. It did, your instance is well managed, the admin takes care of it.

There are different servers because everyone can host one and connect it to the network.

Verification is needed to avoid bots

You can find some information on !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca

Communities on !communitypromo@lemmy.ca

Feel free if you still have questions

[-] moonhead@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 months ago

Why is an admin taking care of my comment? Can't I just comment on stuff?

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Rereading your comment, when I meant "takes care of it", I meant the server/instance, not the comment.

You are of course commenting without anyone taking care of anything.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

On Reddit, admins are taking care of the servers as well to keep the site running, why would it be different here?

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[-] portageinclusion@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I had the same thoughts the other day when I registered.

I’m decently tech savvy - run a Linux server at home with virtual machines and docker containers, self-host a website that’s written and updated through the terminal/command line. So not a genius but more inclined than many but I was at a pause when I opened up the site.

The pause was what does an instance mean, is it important later on and all sorts which I needed to figure out before trying to read the instances. Those are two massive barriers back to back when in reality none of it matters.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Welcome to Lemmy!

What do you think about this post? https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1j0xkqa/lemmy_as_an_alternative_to_reddit_using/

[-] DreasNil@feddit.nu 1 points 3 months ago

This post on Reddit is what made me sign up for Lemmy. It’s really needed, otherwise I wouldn’t have understood how to do it.

Great job on this post!

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Glad you made it, feel free if you have any questions!

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[-] muelltonne@feddit.org 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Be a good user. Post great content. Start awesome communities. Make Lemmy a great place to be on and users will come. You can't convince users to switch networks just because of some technical details. But if the best memes are here and Reddit is drowning in a sea of bot reposts, people will notice. If you google for something and the best answer to your question is not on Reddit, but here, people will notice. If cool people are hanging out on Mastodon and not on X, people will notice. If the one place on the internet to discuss some niche topic is on Lemmy, people will come.

So don't go preaching, do cool stuff here!

[-] DreasNil@feddit.nu 3 points 3 months ago

So true! We have to start using Lemmy in a meaningful way to attract other people.

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 7 points 3 months ago

The Reddit app is absolute dogshit, especially compared to something like voyager. That wasn't the initial reason for me but it's the biggest difference I'm noticing so far.

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Cat pictures

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

!cat@lemmy.world

[-] Wilco@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

I didnt know about Lemmy until I got banned from Reddit yesterday and did a search for apps like Reddit.

[-] vesi@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

Dont get banned here brother

[-] exchange12rocks@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Well, Reddit just killed their API for non-paying 3rd party clients completely (up to this day moderators still could use it), so that might have some effect

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Oh wow, has there been some announcements about this? I saw a thread about Boost Revanced not working yesterday, but seems like they fixed it in the meantime

https://old.reddit.com/r/revancedapp/comments/1j4hene/reddit_boost_revanced_throwing_403_blocked_message/

[-] exchange12rocks@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ah, I used the regular Boost (not patched - moderators could do that). So it seems they just began blocking particular user-agents

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 4 points 3 months ago

I'm not sure about convince but:

Help people out on Reddit who need a hand signing up - there are quite a few of us on there directing people to the fire exits.
Make Lemmy awesome - pitch in on !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca and/or if you see a need for a community then start it, you can always get help at !fedigrow@lemm.ee.

[-] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

This is a really good idea. The place to help people sign up is not on Lemmy, but where the users are.

Hopefully in the future the sign up process (and the orientation experience that follows) will improve drastically on Lemmy. But I don’t see it happening soon.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

then start it,

Small nuance:post on !fedigrow@lemm.ee first, usually there is an existing community that can be used

[-] CBYX@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago

Hand out posters at protests

[-] SrMono@feddit.org 3 points 4 months ago

I guess, you cannot convince per se. When the onboarding experience is easy and the conent is convincing, people will stick around.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

Nowadays I go with

Lemmy is an alternative to Reddit, you can visit https://phtn.app/ to have a look at the content, and install an app using https://vger.app/settings/install.

[-] ex_06@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 months ago

Having more server focused on interests that are not technology

Taking for example this community, this should be together with Europe and yurop and ask European etc on a EU focused server, not scattered between generalistic instances that are also hard to navigate because they are a mess

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Feddit.org is a German instance

Lemm.ee is Estonian.

Feddit.uk is from the UK.

Where do you expect

And this community to be all on one instance?

The technology instances are lemmy.zip or lemmy.dbzer0.com. Feddit.org is not a technology instance.

[-] ex_06@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

On a newly made instance just for those and other eu only communities

Like I’m on a just solarpunk instance

Wasn’t something also on lemmy world? Btw the “technology” thing was more a generalistic view of lemmy right now, sorry about that

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

I'm not sure an EU instance would make that much sense. EU or Europe is the alliance of the different countries. Countries have their own instances, which make sense. Why would we create a new instance for 3 or 4 EU communities? Spreading them across the existing countries instances seems like a better options, represent a bit real life with the EU institutions spread across Germany, France, Luxembourg and Belgium, and agencies in a lot of other countries as well

[-] ex_06@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

For SEO, marketing and branding reasons; being decentralized works better when also treating every instance as a full fledged community. Like a forum.

Also modding reason taking into account that some local instances may be hostile to more eu stuff

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

But here's the thing. People feel both European and from their countries, and having the Local feed with their language community is a nice way to discover local content in their language.

Also modding reason taking into account that some local instances may be hostile to more eu stuff

If anything, I've seen all the instances mods with instance communities very positive about having them there, those are usually very active communities.

[-] ex_06@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

having the Local feed with their language community

I'm not advocating for a single european instance for the whole fedi.

quite the opposite, i'm saying we need a european instance detached and then a lot of other locals instances to show up

Your points don't really invalidate the reasons I've said btw ^^'

Even if we'd go to the ''one euro sub in each euro instance'' there would still be some kind of coordination or landing page for the users that need exactly that and to share the pros of hosting them without ending up as usual with everything in some server or another

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[-] Ougie@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Reverse psychology. Advise that it's not for just everyone and warn people to stay away. It's full of radical lefties here, it's not for you normies, stick to what you know. Keep drinking that kool-aid.