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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 40 points 5 days ago

It's like Christmas. You don't need to be popular all the time. Just in the month before it matters.

What surprises (and worries) me is that, for his popularity to plunge, he had to have it. So he was popular among gen z's. How can someone that young think trump is a good choice is something I can't fathom.

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 87 points 5 days ago

Because young people are gullible and weren't paying attention when he was president before.

Source: I was a young gullible millennial who voted for him in 2016

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 68 points 5 days ago

He's funny and "crazy" until he builds concentration camps on an unregulated island and start breaking our government to the point of no return.

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 22 points 5 days ago

He's already mentioned sending illegal immigrants he can't deport to Guantanamo, and already treats them basically like terrorists when deporting them.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That's the unregulated island I was talking about, he's already sent around 100 and the families can't get a hold of them or know how they're doing. He didn't even release the names, one of the pubs had to dig into it.

Edited to add source: https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-guantanamo-bay-illegal

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 10 points 5 days ago

Wonder what the under/over is on how long we have before reports of sexual abuse and/or child trafficking comes out of those he has had kidnapped away there.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago

Remember during his last presidency when the girls were separated from the boys and shipped somewhere? People won't hear about it because of all of the firehose distraction, won't believe it, or won't know what to do about it if they do believe it.

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 7 points 5 days ago

Abuse of women and girls was rampant during his child separation days in his first term, and like that, the stories will eventually make it out of Gitmo just like the shit they did to the "terrorists" there. And like that, if anything is actually done, it'll fall on a few patsies and then out of the news and onto something new unfortunately. We have very short attention spans in the US, and the news has even shorter ones.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago

Already mentioned? It happened already. They're there. It took them only 2 weeks to get to operating concentration camps.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

I find it hard to believe an 18 year old can't see the evil narcissist in Trump. You'd have to embrace that evil to vote for him.
Hatred of LGBT, emigrants, any people who need help, even victims of natural disasters. He blatantly made fun of a handicapped reporter for his handicap!!
It's good you got wiser, but you can't put this down to just being gullible.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

4 years ago they were just barely Beyond being a tween. Likely being raised by your average indoctrinated American parents. Who don't talk about politics or current events. Despite seeing all the things going on around them never understanding why. Or caring to find out. Because that's not what school teaches. Not what Society teaches.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You don't have to "know" anything to see Trump is a sociopathic malignant Narcissist. Even when not knowing the words for it. That should be clear for all people who are normal. I'd say you should also be able to see it as a 15 year old.
Even a child should be able to grasp that Trump is not a nice man.

The problem in USA however may be that society as a whole is sick, where individual freedom is praised like a religion, and narcissism is widely seen as the ultimate individualism, making it a virtue. While being a decent human being respecting the rights of others, is seen as Woke and being a Socialist and evil.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

You're assuming the average person even watches the news or coverage of such things. And if you keep assuming that you're going to be confused and have a bad time like you currently are.

After school and they come home and watch YouTube videos on Minecraft Roblox or the latest rap beef. They aren't watching Hassan or vaush. Hell they aren't even watching the YouTube clips from the cable news networks. They are completely disengaged from reality and current events. Being engaged in all those things is not something that average people value. They should. But ragging on them saying that they're blind if they don't see it. That's just it they are blind. They don't see the coverage of it at all. They're not missing some nuance. They're missing the coverage completely. Short of making Civics and politics cool with the youth. That's not going to change either.

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[-] ninjabard@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

You aren't gullible. You just weren't listening.

[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yeah, any dumbass 18 yo could see exactly who and what trump was. How it didn't end on the 2015 campaign trail still blows my mind.

[-] ninjabard@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

When he made fun of a reporter's disability and called POWs losers? Absolutely should have ended right then and there.

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[-] normalexit@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Podcasts are super popular right now. Theo Von, Joe Rogan, Kill Tony, Shane Gillis, Matt McCusker all have a huge audience. They are all pro Trump; Tony famously spoke at a Trump rally, and Rogan is constantly pushing a pro conservative message.

Social networks have all gone to the right, as their leadership stands to benefit. Most of our major newspapers and entertainment networks are also owned by billionaires.

They own the messaging right now, and people aren't thinking critically because they are either distracted or don't know how.

[-] ImADifferentBird 2 points 4 days ago

We need to get more young people listening to Robert Evans.

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[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 22 points 5 days ago

They came of age during Trump’s first presidency, when he inherited a lot of gains made under Obama’s tenure. They saw things go to shit during Biden, who inherited both a pandemic and the consequences of Trump’s actions, and was a bit lackluster in dealing with them.

They simply didn’t have the life experience to see the bigger picture beyond that. Trump seemed like a good president because their lives were better during his presidency, but correlation does not equal causation.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Its certainly not just the kiddos who get tricked by that sleight of hand either. I feel like my whole life its just been a cycle of Republicans quickly fucking shit up, then a Democrat gets elected and rights the ship. Then because it's not instantaneous the populace votes in another Republican that will fuck shit up again.

It looks like the Republicans know what they are doing because they can coast on a few years of the past administrations corrective measures.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 days ago

The education system spends a lot of our elementary years inducting us into the propaganda engine. We pledge allegiance to the flag and learn about how we won the west and how we beat off the British.

You slowly get ideas that that's all kind of BS throughout school. Once you get out into the real world you get disillusioned if you're lucky. You either follow the propaganda, or you think he's just another in a long line of assholes. The American dream is a pipe dream you don't love anything That's likely coming for you in life so why not watch it burn, It seems to be pissing a bunch of people off which is an unexpected amount of power.

And it's all perfectly fine right up until the point where you yourself are burning and scared for what little you're given in life.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

He was extremely popular with GenZ men. They were hitting voting age during his first term, when they reaped all of the benefits of things like the rock bottom COVID interest rates. Many of them were able to buy houses fresh out of school, while the millennials before them were so bogged down by student debt that they weren’t able to get those low interest loans. And then they saw Biden fail to address (or at least fail to broadcast that he had addressed) virtually any of their concerns.

And all of that started while they were still barely 18, and lacked the knowledge to understand that many of Trump’s biggest wins were inherited from the previous administration, or that Biden had been handed a shit sandwich and was making do with what he had.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 18 points 5 days ago

Because people see him as a disruptor. They think that if they change things radically, they will end up on top.

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

To be fair, if they are 18 now and voted for the first time they were 10 when he was first elected.

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

During the election I assumed that the younger cohort was lock-step opposed to trump — until — my college age daughter told me that many of her school friends were probably voting for him. I was absolutely flabbergasted and had to reset a lot of assumptions I’d settled into. During the first trump administration, I was clinging to the expectation that younger generations would be our saviors, but I can no longer count on that.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

Some of them are really, really smart, but most of them are dumber than we are. It's just like every generation at that age.

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[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago

How can someone that young think trump is a good choice is something I can't fathom.

Lack of experience seeing these kinds of people.

I once saw someone explain Trump's popularity...

Cityfolk can tell that this guy is a useless yapping businessman who probably doesn't know shit, and is probably going to rip you off and stab you in the back at any opportunity he gets (maybe just for fun).

People in rural areas haven't had as many opportunities to interact with these kinds of people, so they aren't on high alert.

The reason those scummy business people are so successful is because they're charismatic (in a way), they're confident, and they give answers that people want to hear (even if it's a fabrication).

Confident, charismatic people that say what people want to hear? He's going to get a lot of votes. Especially from the people who don't know how to detect that.

Then there's the fact that Trump blames his enemies for his failings, combined with various psychological factors in the voters (sunk-cost? Being blind to their own lack of knowledge?)... he's able to maintain his status amongst his cult.

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

I'm in my 40s. I spend a lot of time at the bar. I see a lot of 20-somethings talking pro-Trump or just thinking it'd be funny to vote for him to "shake things up".

I've yet to see anyone express regret yet though. I do see a lot more red hats. I do have to resist murder.

[-] missingno@fedia.io 8 points 5 days ago

He somehow gained support with gen Z from 2016->2024.

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[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 30 points 5 days ago

Hopefully this poisons the generation against Republicans for decades to come...

I know growing up in a conservative dominant government they definitely made it so I have never voted conservative in any level of government for the past two decades.

[-] Tedesche@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago

Sorry, but anyone dumb enough to vote for Donald Trump after witnessing his first term is too stupid to learn from their mistakes.

[-] perestroika@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

An common explanation for swinging voters is superficial contact with politics. People are too busy with other things in their life to put two and two together. As a result, they make superficial decisions based on current feelings.

I would think that schools also frequently fail, by not providing any tools for political analysis.

[-] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Gen Z barely got to know his first term, that's probably why. Either in high school or college. Still a dumb decision, but at least it's a bit less bad?

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[-] Silver1Bear@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

No, that’s exactly not what’s should happen. This whole mess has its roots in the fact that everyone only cares about populism and partisanship.

The solution isn’t to blindly turn to the Democrats, because then the whole thing will tip right over in the other direction, which will be different, but not better.

What’s really needed is a reformed Republican party, that can offer real competition to the Dems, instead of pushing a platform of a popular liar to win elections, while dismantling the fabric of democracy and driving the country into a wall.

[-] credo@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago

The change is from kids who were old enough from 2016-2020 to understand, but didn’t pay attention. Their parents were gen x.

Hopefully this generational infatuation with the right dies here (millennials’ kids are next). It takes time to fix national-level brainwashing- if we are lucky enough to survive it.

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[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 29 points 5 days ago

Fucking idiots...

[-] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 days ago

I roll my eyes every time another "poll" declares something. They dont know anything.

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 4 points 5 days ago

A majority of those polled support your position on polls

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago

There are plenty of other racists to support him in America.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

There's no way you can get Gen Z to commit to the Nazi life. Lol. Too fucking lazy to be racist enough. That's our saving grace...a bunch of fat asses. And I say we should celebrate that when this is over...the pizza act. Everyone will serve 1 day per month to the entire process of making fast food...from the GMO experiments, to planting and harvesting, and milking and cheese making, to cooking and serving this delicious American tradition. The end goal being the pizza rights act. As long as you have served, you'll be entitled to a certain amount of government pizza. Hey, if you're unemployed you got time to have pizza every day!

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

And why limit it to pizza, I say we include all facets of Americana eatery...artery clogging lard infested foods of all, including tacos.

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

Are we trusting news week now? Didn't seem to be the most reliable website

[-] chris@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

I’ll admit that I was in that position, once. The difference is that when I did it I voted for McCain, not a failed actor and businessman with a clear plan to tear apart our democracy.

It’s great that people are waking up to this, but the damage is done. We’re going to all have to fight tooth and nail to stop and undo the damage, if we can at all. Hang on to your butts, people.

[-] heavy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

Right on time

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 4 points 5 days ago

I hope they eventually wisen up when it's time and vote for president Camacho.

Jokes aside, I wouldn't be surprised to see a President Beast in our lifetime though.

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